Is the Salvation Army a hate group organization?

[MrFun]

I had lunch with another friend of mine today, and he mentioned that he read a news article on gay.com about how the Salvation Army will refuse to give charitable help to anyone who is known to be gay or lesbian.

When is it appropritate to tell others your sexual orientation is a whole separate issue that can be for another separate thread.



My question here is that if the Salvation Army is indeed homophobic, then it's basically a hate organization, isn't it?

[JohnT]

"If" is a highly speculative term to be throwing such accusations about, dontcha think?

[The Mad Monk]

I'll probably answer in a minute, as soon as I finish wrapping my brain around "gay.com"

[alva]

Hmm, no, I don't think so.
They SHOULD get their priorities right, but I don't consider them to be a hate organisation..

[MrFun]

Originally posted by JohnT
"If" is a highly speculative term to be throwing such accusations about, dontcha think?

Well, once I get the FBI on this, we'll find out for sure, either way.

[JohnT]

Generally, it seems the latest controversy has to do with providing health benefits to same-sex partners. First the SA (Western division) said they would, then they said they wouldn't. http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/1113-06.htm

[JohnT]

http://www.washblade.com/2003/12-19/news/national/salvation.cfm

[MrFun]

thanks for that article, JohnT

[The Mad Monk]

Unless a group bases it's identity around the denigration of another group of people, it dosen't qualify as a hate group in my book.

Yes, that is a fairly strict interpretation, and I think it should be.

[MrFun]

I guess the Salvation Army is more of a hypocritical organization in that they are not following the Christian pratice of extending a helping hand to everyone in need, as Jesus Christ had helped those in need.

So really, the Salvation Army is not faithfully Christian-based in that aspect.

[Jon Miller]

gay.com is a real site!!1

jon Miller

[chequita guevara]

The SA is a cult anyways.

[Imran Siddiqui]

My question here is that if the Salvation Army is indeed homophobic, then it's basically a hate organization, isn't it?

No. Just like if they decided not to give money to hispanics they wouldn't be a 'hate organization'.

[MrFun]

Imran -- ThAT makes no sense to me.

Following your reasoning then, someone who advocates forced segregation based on race, is not really a racist.


To what extent can we be wishy-washy to avoid calling organizations for what they really are?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Following your reasoning then, someone who advocates forced segregation based on race, is not really a racist.

To what extent can we be wishy-washy to avoid calling organizations for what they really are?

I quote Mad Monk:

Unless a group bases it's identity around the denigration of another group of people, it dosen't qualify as a hate group in my book.