Top Ten Outrages of the Past Half Millenium

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

the killers are all dead,died in prison for their crimes,the families of the victims have received reparations,it is recognized as a crime,ect ect.

So that makes it all better?

compared with those that havent had all that, of course!

[LordVipper]

better in what way? ok let me put it like this: 2 diferent persons commit murder.the first one dies in prison while the second dies free,respected and wealthy.Which is worse?

[Whaleboy]

libertarian communism... imagine that.

Think Whaleboy. Think lots of paper. Think Haifa.

[Berzerker]

Comparing slavery to say, the Holocaust, is a bit complicated. Events that resulted in a huge loss of life in a very short time frame need to be viewed differently than pervasive practices over lengthy time periods. Slavery and all it entails probably deserves to be at the top of every list, but the mass slaughter of millions over, say, a decade, deserve special consideration since the slaughter was perpetrated by a relative few as compared to a practice like slavery engaged in by many peoples all over the world.

[Imran Siddiqui]

compared with those that havent had all that, of course!

Of course NOT! What happens afterwards does not affect how bad each act actually was.

2 diferent persons commit murder.the first one dies in prison while the second dies free,respected and wealthy.Which is worse?

Both murders are equally horrid. The punishments have no impact on the gruesomeness of the murder.

[Whaleboy]

Poor unenlightened apolytoners.

There is no such thing as right and wrong, and levels of wrong. There is only the degree to which something sucks.

[Bereta_Eder]

of course they do. there's life after the murders too you know. after all tis peoples we're talking about.

[Odin]

AS, No resonably sane person would support Pinochet, he was a bloody butcher. Alledele (sp?) was elected DEMOCRATICALY (OK, so was Hitler, but he used violence and intimidation to win, Alledele didn't).

[LordVipper]

i agree with paiktis on that,if i would have to choose between being a jew or an armenian i would say jew.At least the crime commited against them is recognized and i believe that no one will let it happen again,in contrast with other crimes that will propably go unpunished

[Bereta_Eder]

besides, even if not one of either one of them remained to feel bad for his murderer not being punished, thre's also the moral question. a crime rightfully punished is less "baaad" than an unpunished crime when it comes to morality as a general concept.

[Verto]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Says the person who in another thread claimed the wrongs of the Confederacy were WORSE than those of Nazi Germany

Yes, the wrongs of slavery were worse than the Holocaust. Especially seeing how it lasted for centuries and killed far more than the Holocaust.

But the Confederacy did not last for centuries, nor is it responsible for the deaths of millions, or I suspect any significant number of slaves.

[LordVipper]

whaleboy,where can i get a suckitude meter?

[Whaleboy]

*Whaleboy struggles to contain the urge to make a satirical comment about his sex life...*

[Imran Siddiqui]

there's life after the murders too you know.

Which are distinct from how bad the murders were... DUH!

a crime rightfully punished is less "baaad" than an unpunished crime when it comes to morality as a general concept.

No it isn't?! What sort of wierd morality do you suscribe to?! A murder that is punished is just as bad as a murder that isn't punished. Both involve taking the life of a person... therefore both murders are equally bad.

The reprisal by the state may be less bad, but the murders itself are equally bad... as a general concept of morality.

[LordVipper]

By all means,do!