Your Mommy Kills Animals!

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Well, I see hunting for sport as something you do because you like to hunt. This includes doing it for 'luxury food', or doing it for a fun before-dinner activity. While hunting for food implies that's what you do for food. No if's and's or but's.

So hunting for sport is wide encompasing, but hunting for food is narrow? I see how this is. You want to make hunting 'bad', so you define it in those terms. Why can't you admit it is both without making political definiton of terms .

Please I don't need to seperate sport and food hunting to call it bad. I just told you why both kinds are bad.

Besides, I've already said that I prefer hunting over farming... in principal, anyways.

What if people don't want the processed **** that sufficies for 'packaged meat'? You want to force them to eat inferior because YOU say so? Just because you want to be a fascist doesn't mean they have to accept it. What is the difference between them hunting deer and a company breading and killing chicken and meat? Nothing... just one guy is trying to go around the corporate meat.

Well, as you mentioned before, they could buy organic/free range.


Or they could go vegetarian.

And hunting in general is wrong, because our population is way too large, and our eating habits way too warped, for it to work. If every american went out and killed enough animals to stuff their face with meat three times a day and still have enough to throw away, everything would be dead in a matter of days.

We ALREADY DO... most of us just delegate our hunting to companies. We don't have time to 'hunt', but we would prefer that kind of meat.

Companies don't hunt, they farm. There is a very big difference.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Well, as you mentioned before, they could buy organic/free range.

And pay MUCH MORE? What's the point? And it doesn't taste as good as fresh hunted meat.

Or they could go vegetarian.

Ugh... no way.

Companies don't hunt, they farm. There is a very big difference.

Not really... except where the animals are found.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Well, as you mentioned before, they could buy organic/free range.

And pay MUCH MORE? What's the point?

can't be more trouble or money then buying hunting equipment, permits, ammo,ect... and spending all day in the bush.

Companies don't hunt, they farm. There is a very big difference.[/q]

Not really... except where the animals are found.

yeah, except for that.

My whole point was that the environment couldn't sustain the demand there is, and everythign would be dead in a matter of days if it was all done through hunting.

[Imran Siddiqui]

can't be more trouble or money then buying hunting equipment, permits, ammo,ect... and spending all day in the bush.

One time purchases vs. constant buying? And spending all day in the bush doesn't cost you any cash.

My whole point was that the environment couldn't sustain the demand there is, and everythign would be dead in a matter of days if it was all done through hunting.

And is all meat being hunted? No, of course not. At one point it was and population was kept down because of it. No one is advocated everyone should hunt. But those that want to, should have that option.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
And spending all day in the bush doesn't cost you any cash.

Time is money, they say.

And is all meat being hunted? No, of course not.

Didn't say it was. I just said that's the reason i feel it's bad, in general. Becuase it damages the environment even more then farming does.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Time is money, they say.

Oppertunity cost is one thing. But to some people it is much less than actual monetary costs.

Becuase it damages the environment even more then farming does.

You SERIOUSLY don't believe that, do you? Ask people who are familiar with the Amazon if cattle farming damages the environment less than hunting.

[General Ludd]

You SERIOUSLY don't believe that, do you? Ask people who are familiar with the Amazon if cattle farming damages the environment less than hunting.

You're right, it can be a close call. What's worse - tearing down the rain forest to farm, or killing everything in it?

I hope you didn't take my negative and turn it into a positive. I never said anything good about farming, especially not cattle farming.

[General Ludd]

Ack, we've diluted to single quotes.

[Chemical Ollie]

In Sweden. there are "militant vegetarians" blowing up meat trucks, graffiti-vandalizing milk trucks and releasing minks from fur farms into the wild.

To counter, I sometimes use the nick "Militant Cannibal" in some on-line games.

[Zero]

OMG poor lil rabbits. We cant eat em!

I hate vegetarians who say that ****.

[Imran Siddiqui]

You're right, it can be a close call. What's worse - tearing down the rain forest to farm, or killing everything in it?

Because hunters come close to killing everything in a forest, not counting the rain forest? Tearing it down will kill all lifeforms in an area. Hunting may diminish a few of them.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Hunting may diminish a few of them.

Not if they wanted to meat the same demand. They couldn't let anything live, not even the real nasty tasting things, or they wouldn't even get through a day.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Not if they wanted to meat the same demand.

Who said they are meeing the same demand? This is your own logical fallacy. Hunters are only hunting a few and understand that the environment cannot sustain killing more than a certain number. Food farmers don't care.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Not if they wanted to meat the same demand.

Who said they are meeing the same demand?

I did.


I've already told you that I prefer hunting over farming, on principal. What I've been saying is that if everyone went out and started hunting for the same food they buy from farms, everything would be dead. I was giving you the reason I wouldn't promote hunting over farming, because it isn't a sollution.

[St Leo]

Why does this pamphlet star a blonde blue-eyed person? Does it wish to insult those of us who are not blonde or blue-eyed?

Anyways, I am cool with PETA.