NYTimes: "Strong Support Found for Ban on Gay Marriage"

[Dis]

yes

gay marriage is okay with me. I voted against Nevada's constitutional change to define marraige as only between a man and a woman.

I can care less if gay people marry. It's their funeral

[mrmitchell]

We should always do what the minority wants shouldn't we!! It's so clear now.

What the ****? Are you saying the slaves shouldn't've been freed? (Is he always like this?)

I wasn't saying "The minority is always right". I was saying "The majority isn't always right, and we should protect the minority because it might in fact be right."

[Dis]

yep, agreed. Only listen to the minority when the majority is clearly wrong.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Should gay marriage be illegal because a lot of people are against it? Should it then be illegal if a certain percent of people are against it? What percent is that? 50%? So if the majority of people think slavery is good, then we should adapt it? Or if the majority of people think that catholicism and judaeism should be banned, should it be?

SCOTUS might say that anti marriage laws are unconstitutional, but they'll prolly vote 5-4 in favor. That bigot Scalia will lead the charge to keep 'gays in their place.' All the bible thumpers will applaud when these laws are passed, even though being gay doesn't even make the top ten.

Let's see how many people really believe in freedom and liberty instead of paying lip service to it.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Park Avenue


We should always do what the minority wants shouldn't we!! It's so clear now.

Remember Stew, Democracy is not tyranny of the majority. This issue is a personal one and it is not the right of anyone, including the majority of people, to enforce their arbitrary will on people when it is of no concern to them whatsoever. How would you feel if a similar law was passed saying that Mancunians living in Wales cannot get married (or whatever)? It is just as arbitrary...

[molly bloom]

'Traditional Values Coalition'- those traditional values presumably being ignorance, prejudice and stupidity.

If the people quoted are representative of those polled, then the N.Y.T. hit a rich seam of ignorance and gullibility:

"I just don't think it's right for two men to go parading around in public or for two women to be doing the things they do. It's against God's law. That's right in the Bible that it's wrong."

God's law. Super. He'll be giving up pork, making burnt offerings, stoning women to death and excluding the disabled from the temple too will he? Perhaps if he could drag himself into the 3rd millennium instead of inhabiting 2500 B.C. , he might find the world a different place from that of a band of itinerant sheepherders'.

"If I knew that we had a neighbor who was gay, I would not let my nieces and nephews go close by there. I don't want to accept their lifestyle. It can be acquired and it is not right."

And clearly madame, stupidity can definitely be acquired or bred in the bone. Does anyone know where I can 'acquire' some lesbianism? I'd like to give some to a straight male friend of mine, I'm sure he'd be delighted.
No one has ever explained successfully what this gay 'lifestyle' entails. How do I know if I have it? Where can I get it? Does IKEA sell it? Will Wal-Mart or Enjo sell a discounted version?

If I had a neighbour like her, I'd move.

"I want my children to grow up and be normal people like me and my father and my grandfather was," said Ziad Nimri, 41, a salesman and a Democrat who lives in Spokane, Wash. "I don't want my children to start getting ideas. They see it's out in the open and you see men kissing men on television these days."

Mr. Nimri said he was also worried that if gays were allowed to marry, they would get other rights too, like tax benefits. "Because they're a minority, they're going to start actually giving them more privileges than normal people would have," he said. "Minorities always tend to get more than your average person does."

Oh gee, Mr. Nimri, aren't I normal too? Oh no, of course, I'm a homo. Well ain't it strange, but with a name like Ziad Nimri, I'm betting he comes from an ethnic or religious minority. So could he explain, do you think, what extra rights or privileges he's entitled to, for simply being Ziad Nimri ?

Gay men and women don't want extra rights, or special rights, or funds for being gay, don't want to convert their neighbours' children, don't want to make heterosexuals sit at the back of the bus, or wear i.d. cards, they just want the same deal as heterosexuals, and fail to see why religious prejudice should get in the way of that, in a secular state.

[Sava]

If such an amendment gets its way on the Constitution, it will prove once and for all America isn't the land of the free, but rather, the land of dopey conservative dickheads.

[Ned]

I predicted this. The continued use of the courts rather than the legislatures to force social change in the United States creates anger in reaction. Gay marriages and ban on Christmas are the current causes being pushed.

The people look at who are behind this and see nothing but Democrats. There is little wonder the socially conservative are moving in droves to the Republican party.

Unless I am wrong here, the Democrats are going to be wiped out in the next election.

[Mazarin]

loved the quotes from the anti gay-marriage people. this article will help the undecided to see the moron attitude behind organizations like these "concerned women".

[Ned]

Mazarin, admittedly some of the comments from the anti-gay rights people are stupid, but what I see in this thread and indeed in the debate at large is hard-lined hatred, true boiling hatred, of Christianity.

How do you think Christians are going to react to that?

[orange]

I don't think anyone here hates Christians...I think they (myself included) hate what people do and believe in the name of Christianity.

[Ned]

Orange, calling religious types ignorant, bigoted and generally laughing at them is hardly conducive to rational debate because it exhibits, IMHO, hatred that only polarizes the debate and generates hatred in return.

[Mazarin]

Originally posted by Ned
Orange, calling religious types ignorant, bigoted and generally laughing at them is hardly conducive to rational debate because it exhibits, IMHO, hatred that only polarizes the debate and generates hatred in return.

its not against Christians: I'd laugh at any atheist/moslem/jewish/*insert any group I might have missed* if they used similar arguements. There are many sensible Christians I know, some of them are even using arguements against gay marriage that I do respect -even if I don't agree with them.

[Sprayber]

I don't like the idea of gay marriages, but this should be kept out of the constitution.

Then again, perhaps all marriages should be dumped in favor of 5 year marriage leases. You know, you have to get it renewed every 5 years or you can opt out.

[Bereta_Eder]

that would save alot of problems