Boris' pissed off and he's telling you why

[Harry Tuttle]

I'll make the point of bread and circuses when arguing about popular dictators. Even Mussolini made the trains run on time.

The difference is that dictators tend to shut out all competition, period. Whereas a dictatorship of the majority in the average nation still allows the minority to have a say in minor elections, government, free press, etc...

Popular dictators remain popular out of choice because of two things: Information control and selective incentives for the majority. Basically the people supporting the dictators don't know any better or they benefit all the more from having that dictator in power.

[Q Classic]

by the way, you should visit my website, oncle.

here.

[Fake Boris]

why would they think the few extra bucks are worth it? could it be that they might need the extra bucks? people would shovel **** and clean out the insides of an oil depot out of the goodness of their hearts? jesus, i need to find them, because i could really use their generosity to pay for my education.

In fact, many people study in Quebec because of the cheaper costs and then get away in the US where salaries are higher.
If you want to immigrate to Quebec, you're welcome. There are plenty of left-wing idiots willing to charge you 1/20 the cost of an American university.

Then you can have beer with the sponges collecting their welfare check.

We don't buy nearly as much SUVs as in the US, but again it'll help us meeting the Kyoto protocol requirements. You know, that criminal leftist conspiration.

[Q Classic]

well, no offense, but having a degree from certain big-name universities in the states adds a certain cachet...

it's more impressive to say, "i have a degree from harvard/yale/columbia/georgetown/university of chicago/stanford" than it is to say "i have a degree from university of montreal."

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what's wrong with buying suvs? i love 'em. the bigger, the better. i like the one that daimlerchrysler put out that was based on a chassis for a semi. huge thing. hummers are nice too, but i can't afford those, and daddy won't buy me one.

and the kyoto protocol did suck. even the russians agreed.

[Fake Boris]

All right guys,

I WAS JOKING ABOUT THE DICTATOR THING.

Just having some fun. Caesar or Napoleon being popular won't ever make me pro-despotism, don't worry.

[Q Classic]

well, as much as i like democracy, there's something to be said about authoritarian governments. i mean, mussolini did make the trains run on time. park chung-hee did jump-start south korea's miraculous economic growth. so not all dictators are that bad.

[Fake Boris]

OK Imran

Here is for Hydro-Quebec: http://www.hydroquebec.com/en/

from there you can read electricity price comparison and see the company annual report. They are doing just fine.

As for electricity prices, they are not the cheapest in the world but still rank amongst the best in North America.

The graph about Quebec:

The graph you gave was about GDP growth as a raw number, but not as a per capita one.

So duh, Ontario is more populated than Quebec, so its numbers are higher. Population also grew faster, thus contributing even more to the trend.

You must also consider that Quebec has a strong separatist movement, which has had a detrimental effect on economic growth. Many rich citizens and entrepreneurs left the province, fearing that a state ran by French Canadians would go bankrupt, forbid use of English, and become something like of a communist regime. Of course it was pure BS but the bad had been done.

Now: I will agree that Quebec is poorer than most of Canada. But I think real per capita numbers indicate that the gap has not widened, but just stayed about the same. Before the sixties, French Canadians were considered an inferior race and were paid less than their English counterparts. Segregation was never nearly as bad as in the south of USA but there was some.
Feel free to find some numbers if you want to prove that the gap has widened. The fact is, we don't care. People just like the solidarity thinking behind SD and want it to stay that way. There are still many people in the world who don't value wealth as much as in the US.

In short, Quebec is a particular case that needs more than a graph.

And by the way: don't tell French Canadians Quebec is not a country. It might be true politically, but many of them certainly feel like having a distinct society, somewhere in a place we call "Heart".

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
well, no offense, but having a degree from certain big-name universities in the states adds a certain cachet...

Just like Hugo Boss clothes will make you look like refined and stylish. I'd rather get some French poetry of the 19th century. 1% of the price and twice the attitude. Chicks just love it.

[Q Classic]

that only works if the school teaches you proper elocution. state schools don't always have that benefit.

besides, unlike you, the rest of us who go there aren't looking for mrs degrees.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
that only works if the school teaches you proper elocution. state schools don't always have that benefit.

besides, unlike you, the rest of us who go there aren't looking for mrs degrees.

Oh, as a sidenote, I'm studying in a private College.
I guess they don'T always have the benefit of elocuted students.

[JohnT]

http://www.unhchr.ch/udhr/lang/eng.htm

... tons of rights, but not word one about responsibilities.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by JohnT

http://www.unhchr.ch/udhr/lang/eng.htm

... tons of rights, but not word one about responsibilities.

Yes, it is a 11 years-old responsibility to make sure he's not being sent to the sweatshop by his parents instead of the school.
It is certainly not up to Nike to say: go to school, little one. And it is certainly not up to Nike to pay taxes that would help the little kid's parents not having to send him to work just to pay the electricity bill.
Talk about irresponsible, ungrateful bastards. Those Indonesians, when they understand that US-supported Suharto (one of the worst despot of the 70s) was here to bring them wealth, will be so thankful to the American citizens.

Now seriously. I find it INCREDIBLE that you are talking about personal responsibilities while half of the world population is illiterate and doesn't have access to damn drinking water. How can you claim it is their fault? How can you claim it is someones' fault to be born with the AIDS while his parents don't even know what a virus is?

I wonder what would happen if the US government spent 100 billions less on the army and 100 billions more on digging wells for Africans. Probably the collapse of the world and the rise of a new leftist conspiracy, huh?

[Imran Siddiqui]

The graph you gave was about GDP growth as a raw number, but not as a per capita one.

Who does GDP GROWTH per capita?! Growth is simply how much did the economy improve. 'per capita' has nothing to do with it.

don't tell French Canadians Quebec is not a country. It might be true politically, but many of them certainly feel like having a distinct society, somewhere in a place we call "Heart".

Kind of like the morons in the South who say 'The South shall rise again'?

[JohnT]

Originally posted by Oncle Boris


Yes, it is a 11 years-old responsibility to make sure he's not being sent to the sweatshop by his parents instead of the school.
It is certainly not up to Nike to say: go to school, little one. And it is certainly not up to Nike to pay taxes that would help the little kid's parents not having to send him to work just to pay the electricity bill.
Talk about irresponsible, ungrateful bastards. Those Indonesians, when they understand that US-supported Suharto (one of the worst despot of the 70s) was here to bring them wealth, will be so thankful to the American citizens.

Now seriously. I find it INCREDIBLE that you are talking about personal responsibilities while half of the world population is illiterate and doesn't have access to damn drinking water. How can you claim it is their fault? How can you claim it is someones' fault to be born with the AIDS while his parents don't even know what a virus is?

I wonder what would happen if the US government spent 100 billions less on the army and 100 billions more on digging wells for Africans. Probably the collapse of the world and the rise of a new leftist conspiracy, huh?

Just a little histrionic here, aren't we?

Given that the document is little more than a list of supposed "rights" that every man, woman, and child in the world is "owed," where is the corresponding UN list in regards to the obligations the individual owes towards society?

For discussions sake, let's limit the question to those people in the province of (what was it, Quebec?) who have a "right" to $500/month. What are the responsibilities they owe to their society?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Kind of like the morons in the South who say 'The South shall rise again'?

It did just that and took over.