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  • #31
    Not exactly. The New York Times approved it.


    And everyone knows the endorsement from the New York Times is just as good as an endorsement by the President himself
    Last edited by Kuciwalker; December 21, 2003, 02:14.

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    • #32
      Accusing me of wearing a tinfoil hat, is that all you can come up with?


      It's the most apt (and accurate) explination.
      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • #33
        Actually, I think that the best explanation is that he's a DL, and the creator is having a LOT of fun

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        • #34
          Oil played a significant factor in the motivation to get involved in Iraq... not just now, but going back decades. To say this war isn't about oil is completely false and stupid. To say oil was the sole purpose is also completely false and stupid. Personally, I think the whole "he tried to kill my daddy" motive was more powerful in Bush's mind than "we can open up Iraq to American companies and exploit it".
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • #35
            The alter ego appears

            and right after a DL accusation.....Hmmmm
            “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

            ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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            • #36
              No more oil for blood!
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • #37
                Of course the war was over oil. As well as over things like liberation and bringing democracy to the Iraqi people etc etc etc. Am I the only one who doesn't care that the war was also over oil? Strategically for the US it is important to bring stability to that region. I mean who really cares its done isn't it? The wars over, Saddams been captured and some diehards are still killing themselves for no good reason. (When will people learn that killing yourself for the 'cause' is not the best way to do things)
                Besides too late now to be still arguing over it. Hell, by the looks of it most goals have been achieved or are on their way to being achieved.

                Also I don't think the CIA is as powerful as it can be made out to be.

                Oh, another reason that the oil companies could be investing in those other areas is that well oil is gonna run out someday so its best to plan for the future isn't it? Especially when your a company that wishes to still be making loads of cash in the future aswell.

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                • #38
                  I mean who really cares its done isn't it?
                  Then who really cares that he murdered many hundred thousand people? That's done too isn't it?
                  meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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                  • #39
                    Building on what Flip said: It wouldn't be very sound business strategy to rely on a resource that you're aware is going to run out, now would it?
                    "Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
                    "The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved; loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves" - Victor Hugo
                    "It is noble to be good; it is still nobler to teach others to be good -- and less trouble." - Mark Twain

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                    • #40
                      Kirn+Flip: Exactly! Or a resource that might be displaced by a better one.

                      If a horse&buggy investor built a car factory, that wouldn't make HIM nervous, now would it?
                      meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
                        If the USA wanted to invade a country for oil, it would have inveaded Venuzuala, not Iraq. We were getting several times the oil from them that we were getting from Iraq. It is closer and otherwsie much easier to reach than Iraq. It was having a goverment crises. Around half of its people were begging for us to intervene. QED.
                        Yeah, but we were already getting Venezuelan oil, unlike Iraq. QED back atcha.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Shogun Gunner
                          not faring so well Tripledoc....
                          The master of understatements has cometh.


                          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                          • #43
                            Then who really cares that he murdered many hundred thousand people? That's done too isn't it?
                            Who? Bush, Saddam, Bin Laden? I'm guessing your talking about Saddam. I see your point. My who really cares was over the whole oil issue. I think it has been done to death and it doesn't really matter if Bush did go to war for oil only as he managed to do the (well some of the) other things aswell as secure oil for America.

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                            • #44
                              It baffles me why the US isn't on a coal economy. We've got the world's largest reserves, and it's not as if the government gives a darn about the environment anyway.
                              Visit First Cultural Industries
                              There are reasons why I believe mankind should live in cities and let nature reclaim all the villages with the exception of a few we keep on display as horrific reminders of rural life.-Starchild
                              Meat eating and the dominance and force projected over animals that is acompanies it is a gateway or parallel to other prejudiced beliefs such as classism, misogyny, and even racism. -General Ludd

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                              • #45
                                Steam engines in our cars, Smiley?

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