Why would they torture Saddam Hussein for info on WMD's? All the top brass know full well there aren't any in Iraq.
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They should torture him until he confesses to having them.
"Nobody expects the..."12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
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Never mind, Boris. He'll just ignore you and bring it up again the next time someone questions him...
"I'm to lazy to debate a "belief" with you KH. Any evidence I produce will be refuted one way or another anyway. I don't trust Bush, FOXNews is crap, the FBI lies, blah blah blah... It's to difficult to give proof to some who will ignore anything that is shown; [OJ Impression] See, the gloves too small[/OJ Impression]
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was going to be my post.
Japher, come on--the Weakly Standard story was torn to shreds in the thread about it, and I've not seen that story corroborated anywhere. The NY Post would have at least picked it up here in the U.S.
However, even though the DoD refuted it, it was dismissed as being "untrue" and "unverified"... that doesn’t dismiss it, and it is still being addressed as a leak, so it must mean something.
Boston Herald
"The people who sneer at the possibility of bin Laden-Saddam connections overlap with people who tend to blame Sept. 11 on the failure of the United States to solve all the problems of the Middle East. The recent bloody attacks in Turkey show that it's the modern world itself that the terrorists are trying to destroy. Turning a blind eye to evidence that conflicts with cherished feel-good assumptions is a dangerous habit."
as well as NewsWeek put it better than I can.
Still, while you care not to believe what is placed in front of you, I care to believe. IMO, you could still have all the facts, but the only proof of it is history, which you all have the tenacity to dismiss as revisionist or hearsay… What do want? What would be concrete evidence to you? I really don’t think SH and OBL would have been dumb enough to have pictures of the two taken, and I don’t think they got matching “I Love Mom” tattoos, or have secret decoder rings…
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First, whya rgue with japh about the supposed SH-OBL links? The "proof" is poor at best, but the admin and its supporters will continue to tout it endlessly, otherwise admit one justification was at best grossl overplayed.
As for Osama baing dead..you mean dead like Saddam was? I mean, we did bomb Saddam to death twice!
Finally, as for the question? No, becuase it would lead nowhere usefull. Besides, more than 6 months have passed- the bad guys have had so long to get their hands on them, if they existed.If you don't like reality, change it! me
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Originally posted by GePap
As for Osama baing dead..you mean dead like Saddam was? I mean, we did bomb Saddam to death twice!
dead as in none of the audeos or videos that have been released have Osama have mentioned any events subsequent to December 2001, in contrast to at least one tape by Zawahiri. Leads me to think theres a good chance Osama is dead, though I suppose there could be other explanations
As for torturing Saddam, its pretty well established as Cerberus said above that torture tends to be ineffective in getting information."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
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no reason to think he is dead. After the fall of baghdad we got no saddam videos either. Maybe is is camera shy now.If you don't like reality, change it! me
"Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
"Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
No ones forgotten about him - the search goes on (though theres a significant probability hes dead)
Spec.-Never argue with an idiot; He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.
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Any that would get people to actually want to fight?12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
Ultima Ratio Regum
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Does anyone really belief that none of the 'democratic' goverments torture people?!Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God? - Epicurus
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Originally posted by Spiffor
If I think you had WoMD's I should be able to torture you.
Should your Wommdies fall in the wrong hands, the world would be a much more sorry place, so I think it's worth taking the risk of torturing you.
Amen, let's rack his ass.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Originally posted by Park Avenue
Stop splitting infinitives and I may decide to give you an answer.
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