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  • #271
    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
    I think in general we've mangled a lot of the intent of the writers of the constitution. I think its also pretty safe to say that by freedom of religion they meant freedom of the different christian denominations. not freedom of paganism or aetheism.


    Actually that is not true. Madison, for one, did not restrict his freedom to simply Christians.
    some ppl were more enlightened than others. I feel that u provided a counter example w/o actually doing anything to the integrity of my point. sort of a misdirection.

    I dont appreciate it.

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    • #272
      some ppl were more enlightened than others. I feel that u provided a counter example w/o actually doing anything to the integrity of my point. sort of a misdirection.

      I dont appreciate it.


      Don't appreciate it then. Not like I care. Madison is called the 'father of the Constitution' so saying the writers of the Constitution meant this while Madison disagrees is a funny statement to make.
      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • #273
        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
        some ppl were more enlightened than others. I feel that u provided a counter example w/o actually doing anything to the integrity of my point. sort of a misdirection.

        I dont appreciate it.


        Don't appreciate it then. Not like I care. Madison is called the 'father of the Constitution' so saying the writers of the Constitution meant this while Madison disagrees is a funny statement to make.
        yet its true. the supreme court has severely liberalized the constitution and its implementation over the past 250 years.

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        • #274
          yet its true. the supreme court has severely liberalized the constitution and its implementation over the past 250 years.
          That comment demonstrates a profound ignorance of American history.
          "Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
          "The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved; loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves" - Victor Hugo
          "It is noble to be good; it is still nobler to teach others to be good -- and less trouble." - Mark Twain

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          • #275
            Yes, Kirn. It is, at the very least, incredibly simplistic.
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • #276
              yet its true. the supreme court has severely liberalized the constitution and its implementation over the past 250 years.


              I think yavoon has a bit of a trouble with concepts like "time", too

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              • #277
                Very well, I stand corrected. I do think, however, that 'In God we Trust' is probably the result of the undeniable fact that the vast majority of early American settlers and leaders were Christian. I don't think "sneaked in" is really a fair way to describe that reference.
                "In God We Trust" in our currency (as with the addition of "under God" to the pledge) is a result of the paranoia of the 50's to signify that the US gov't wasn't a bunch of godless commies. It has nothing to do with the the settlers or leaders of the early US.
                "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                -Bokonon

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                • #278
                  Originally posted by skywalker
                  yet its true. the supreme court has severely liberalized the constitution and its implementation over the past 250 years.


                  I think yavoon has a bit of a trouble with concepts like "time", too
                  yah it was my head rounding off

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                  • #279
                    pbbbt. yeh, everyone knows judicial activism didn't really start in earnest until Dred Scott.

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                    • #280
                      Yes, Kirn. It is, at the very least, incredibly simplistic.
                      I don't see what's wrong with his assertion. For instance, the first Congresses funded religious missions for Amerinidians, which is obviously anathema to the current SCOTUS' interpretation of the Establishment Clause.
                      "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                      -Bokonon

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                      • #281
                        "In God We Trust" in our currency (as with the addition of "under God" to the pledge) is a result of the paranoia of the 50's to signify that the US gov't wasn't a bunch of godless commies. It has nothing to do with the the settlers or leaders of the early US.
                        I stand corrected again.
                        "Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
                        "The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved; loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves" - Victor Hugo
                        "It is noble to be good; it is still nobler to teach others to be good -- and less trouble." - Mark Twain

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                        • #282
                          I don't see what's wrong with his assertion. For instance, the first Congresses funded religious missions for Amerinidians, which is obviously anathema to the current SCOTUS' interpretation of the Establishment Clause.


                          You answered your own question. The SCOTUS hasn't liberalized the Constitution. In that aspect it has constrained it.
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • #283
                            Originally posted by Whoha
                            pbbbt. yeh, everyone knows judicial activism didn't really start in earnest until Dred Scott.
                            Marbury v Madison to be exact.
                            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                            • #284
                              Still the court did nothing for 50 years after that, hence "in earnest" :P

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                              • #285
                                The common use of "liberalizing" implies liberalizing society, not the constraints on gov't.
                                "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                                -Bokonon

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