OUCH! Widow Indicts Bush For 9/11

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Even a blind horse can find water sometimes.

Ha -- that was soooo not funny.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I thought it was... and that is all that counts .

[Berzerker]

They wouldn't have evacuated all highrises in America on a tip like that.

Not before the attack, but at least people would have some reason to react appropriately after the first tower was hit and not just assume it was an accident. And the passengers on board all the planes would have had a clue about their fate, not just the people on board UA 93 which was diverted away from it's intended use by informed passengers...

Sheesh! Listening to you guys you'd think it was perfectly reasonable for the people at Pearl Harbor to be caught off guard, yet commanders in charge there did get blasted for negligence... I've agreed with your view in the past but the more I learn the more I'm getting the impression our government royally screwed up. We were treated to decades of warnings and education about what to do during the cold war but 9/11 was...well...a total surprise. Why? Because the government apparently decided we shouldn't be informed... Not good... I have to agree with this woman inspite of the 20/20 defense...

[Nubclear]

WOW!

[Q Classic]

cool. can we blame bush for other things, too?

it's his fault that i have this goddamned flu.

[GePap]

Blah- the president was supposed to hear of the attack, rush to a phone and order the evactuation of the second tower? Why? Giulliani, the chefi of NYPD and FDNY would deserve as much blame if that is the charge.

If she whishes to Blame bush for it she can blame him for not following up post-haste against Al Qaeada as the outgoing Clintonites asked for, but not the very events as they happened that day.

[The diplomat]

Hind sight is great but let's be fair. What do you really think the reaction of the american people would have been if before the attack (when nobody believed such an attack could happen), Bush et al. had suddenly gone around warning people not to fly and not to got to work because terrorists may try to crash jets into a building? Bush would have been ridiculed and accused of creating a false sense of panic!

[Imran Siddiqui]

Bush would have been ridiculed and accused of creating a false sense of panic!

Normally I think you are a loon (), but you are spot on with this. I mean, remember all the warnings and the lights and all that jazz after 9/11 and every little bit of info was checked out. People mocked it viciously. Can you imagine what it would have been like prior to 9/11?

[orange]

I dislike Bush, but what that lady is saying is unfair. He's the President, not a psychic.

[RGBVideo]

"Ouch"? Some greedy hag wants to use his dead husband as an excuse to earn $$$BIGBUCKS$$$ from wherever there is money, using the laughing stock of the whole worl justice system of the United States. I wouldn't call this news.

In other words, who cares?

Yeah, hindsight is great, isn't it? I bet the Catholic church is still kicking itself about how it failed to prevent the Reformation.

[chequita guevara]

What she is saying is correct, but her specifics are wong.

Let me lay out for you the sequence of culpability. This stretches over four administrations and twenty years, but it doesn't really get interesting until Clinton.

Clinton, in order to appease the Republican Party, appoints a Republican to head the FBI, Louis Freeh (or however his name is spelled). Freeh hates Clinton's guts, and is a rather insuborindate leader. Clinton should have sacked him, but doesn't.

Despite mounting evidence that terorists are no longer targetting Americans, but rather America, LF continues to harrass and dismiss the anti-terorrism experts in the FBI. Most of the FBIs efforts are expended on drug interdiction. Despite this, the FBI manages to foil several major plots, including the millenium plot, Ramsey Yousef's plot to blow up mutliple airliners, etc. Clinton asks for more anti-terrorism powers, and Congress refuses some but grants others.

Then Khobar Towers. Then the embassies are attacked. Clinton relatiates by firing missiles, some of them destroying a pharmasuetical factory the US still insists was a chem weapon factory. Camps in Afganistan are also hit. When the USS Cole is bombed, Clinton orders a comprehensive policy created to deal with terrorism. It is completed in Dec., 2000. It is handed to the Bush team and they are told that the most important threat they will have to face in their coming Administration is al-Qaeda.

The plans include creating a special task force to coalate and coordinate all anti-terrorism efforts in the US, creat a department of homeland security, make anti-terrorism a primary effort in both the CIA and FBI, more cooperation between the agencies, etc.

They are ignored. Then plan is shunted aside. All invesitgation into the Saudi sources of AQ are stopped, by orders from above.

Aug 6, while setting records for spending the most time on vacation for a President in history, Bush is briefed at his Crawford ranch that AQ is planning to hijack multiple airlines. The AG, Ashcroft, considers the threat serious enough that he stops flying on civilian airlines.

Several of our allies, including both Israel and Germany, are telling the US that they have intel that AQ is planning a major attack on the US in the very near future.

They are ignored.

9/11, the Bush Administration finally takes its head out of the sand, but not before flying 150 prominent Saudis out of the U.S. (including two of bin Laden's brothers) before the FBI can question them.

They pull out the Clinton plan and begin to use it.

Had the Republican Party not so hated Clinton and completely dismiss his administration's effort, had they followed up on the plan that had been handed to them, and had they not quashed the FBI's invesitgations into the Saudis, it is possible that 9/11 could have been, if not prevented, at least mitigated.

[JohnT]

Che, Che, Che... is everything political to you?

Sheesh! Listening to you guys you'd think it was perfectly reasonable for the people at Pearl Harbor to be caught off guard, yet commanders in charge there did get blasted for negligence...

Actually, it is very reasonable not to expect the inconcievable, even if you are warned. Nobody really expected the Japanese to bomb Pearl Harbor, and nobody would've really believed that there would be a foreign terrorist attack on US soil.

Didn't your parents ever warn you about something to which you replied (in mind if not by mouth) "bull****", only to find out they were right? If not, consider yourself incredibly unique.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Of course, John... and in the end, of course, the leftyish Dems are right and the Republicans are always wrong... it is che we are talking about .

[DinoDoc]

Where was this overriding concern with terrorism supossedly held by the Clinton administration people keep harping on? I never saw it in thier actions.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Space05us
I never heard anything about the control towers having the knowledge that the planes were hijacked, as far as I understood they were simply off course and not responding to communications.

In the most tightly controlled commercial airspace in the world, and you have two aircraft in the air at the same time that deviate from course under control, but do not repond to communications? If that doesn't raise alarm bells to to 38,000 ****ing feet, then someone really had to have their heads up their asses.