Turn Saddam over to the Kurds!

[Winston]

There's no contradiction in supporting the death penalty and opposing abortion.

Aborted fetuses usually haven't been found guilty of commiting atrocious crimes.

[Q Classic]

they are human. they deserve to live. fetuses are parasites anyway.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
they are human. they deserve to live. fetuses are parasites anyway.

Exactly, Saddam, Serial Killers, and Mass Murderers aren't humane and therefore don't deserve to live.

[Q Classic]

Exactly, Saddam, Serial Killers, and Mass Murderers aren't humane and therefore don't deserve to live

i used to think that way too.
but it's too easy of a justification. if we ourselves strip away someone else's humanity, what will we have become?
if pretend that such evil isn't present in humanity, and isn't something we need to be vigilant against, then it'll only crop up again somewhere else.
let him serve as a reminder for how humanity can be perverted for evil.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Nah, their survival gives them the possiblity of converting/infesting others. Better to whack off the genetic mutation from the gene pool.

[Q Classic]

experiment on them, torture them, i don't care. you can make their lives miserable. you don't have the right to kill them, though.

[Ramo]

Why does the state have the right to torture Saddam, but not kill him? I'd rather be killed than tortured for the rest of my life.

[Q Classic]

there's no injunction against life being miserable or not. there is one against killing another life.

so are you suggesting that saddam doesn't deserve the torture he dealt out to others, but he does deserve the death he dealt out to others?

[Ramo]

I don't think he "deserves" either. I just wouldn't give that much of a **** if the Iraqi authorities kills him.

there's no injunction against life being miserable or not. there is one against killing another life.

Injunction? From whom?

[Q Classic]

so far as i can tell, i haven't heard anything from the pope expressly prohibiting torture.

i have heard him numerous times proclaim the sanctity of life. i may not be a good catholic, but i'm trying: with luck, i may just sqeak into purgatory.

[Ramo]

so far as i can tell, i haven't heard anything from the pope expressly prohibiting torture.

i have heard him numerous times proclaim the sanctity of life. i may not be a good catholic, but i'm trying: with luck, i may just sqeak into purgatory.

I'm an atheist, not a Catholic. And Christ taught to turn the other cheek; i.e. revenge is bad. Whether its capital punishment or torture.

And torture is a pretty monstrous thing IMO. It's even more a form of pointless revenge than killing. It's just intended to make a person suffer and suffer. We shouldn't be taking tips from Uday.

[Q Classic]

we wouldn't. we'd be letting his victims make their peace with him by conversing, at length, with him.

[Ramo]

That's not what's generally considered torture.

[Q Classic]

if they slapped in in anger it would be.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by Patroklos
As long is it is by hanging, I don't care where they do it. Hanging is traditionally the most dishonorable death. ...

I thought that was cruzifiction. But doing that could have some unwanted side effects