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  • #16
    Kofi Annan is now calling for an international tribunal - presumably to make the UN sound relevant.

    There is supposed to be an Iraqi government in June. Leave Saddam in a cell until then to reflect on what he has done and what it has brought him, then hand him over to the new Iraqi government to try him in Iraq for crimes committed in Iraq against Iraqis. If they choose to hang him, so be it.
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    • #17
      Screw the U.N.
      They're out of it.
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      • #18
        i can't support the death penalty, not even in saddam's case. nor would i be able to in kim jong-il's.

        consistency: life is precious, no matter whose. being opposed to abortion on the basis of it being life means that i ought to be--and am--opposed to euthanasia and capital punishment. (suicide i'm still trying to stop thinking as a valid end.)

        march him around iraq in sandals. let him have to face every single person he's wronged. if they spit on him, or hit him, that is fine. they shouldn't be able to kill him.
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        • #19
          So torture is ok, Cubed? Fine. Torture Hussein.
          I can get behind that idea.
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          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • #20
            as long as we keep our hands clean.
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            • #21
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              Last edited by Q Classic; December 16, 2003, 13:23.
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              • #22
                Anyone who believes Iraq is not currently under martial law should prudently avoid debating the issue with any of the occupying forces.

                Making a start towards even a police force is proving troublesome.

                It will be a month of Sundays or longer before a prosecuting authority or a judiciary can be thought of.

                As for a system of law ...

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                • #23
                  The Bushies have yet to OK a handover to Iraquis. The Iranians are filling complaints-but they are unlikely to get him on trial in Iran. The Kurdish idea is an utter no no.
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                  • #24
                    I can support the DP for crimes against humanity. I think that's about the only case.
                    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                    • #25
                      I am glad that Saddam will face the justice that he deserves for all the crimes that he has commited. People like him should be put to death. Their crimes are so horrible I can not believe why anyone would oppose putting such people to death.

                      The UN will never try him. IF we let the UN try him, we would be lucky if he got 20 years in prision. For a man who has killed thousands of people, the only punish that is appopriate is death. How can people say that he should not be put to death? What kind of crap is that? To me that is just plain sick and one of the greatest injustices in the world. I thought that no one would be opposed to putting Saddam to death, but I guess I was wrong.

                      What the hell is wrong with the UN? That is why I am glad the US has nothing to do with that stupid internation Tribunal, so we can watch as they let people who have commited some of the worst crimes in history to live out their lives? That is just plain stupid.

                      FOr those of you who do not want to see Saddam dead for what he has done, their is some suriously wrong with you and you have messed up view of justice. You are just plain wrong.
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                      • #26
                        if you support the death penalty, why are you against abortion?

                        consistency in my beliefs, which i've debated, is why i can't support the death penalty, not even for saddam.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Q Cubed
                          if you support the death penalty, why are you against abortion?

                          consistency in my beliefs, which i've debated, is why i can't support the death penalty, not even for saddam.
                          So you are going to let someone live who has maybe responsible for the death of millions live because you are opposed to death penalty. And you are opposed to the death penalty because you oppose aboration.

                          That is just, well I dont want to say the word. BUt come on. For a man who has killed maybe millions you would not put that person to death!?!?!?
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                          • #28
                            I'm morally opposed to the death penalty, but it's hard to get worked up about the fate of a genocidal manic. I don't support killing Saddam, but, frankly, I don't care all that much about what happens to that monster.
                            "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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                            • #29
                              So you are going to let someone live who has maybe responsible for the death of millions live because you are opposed to death penalty. And you are opposed to the death penalty because you oppose aboration.

                              the cycle of death must end.
                              if we kill saddam, will it bring back to life the young women his son uday raped and killed?
                              if we kill saddam, will it bring back the sanity of the woman lawyer whose mind was destroyed because she had the gall to defend someone against saddam?
                              if we kill saddam, will it bring back those servicemen who sacrificed themselves?

                              i am opposed to the death penalty because i believe every life is sacred, no matter whose, and what they chose to do with it. your life has as much of a right to exist as saddam's--the only difference is, you haven't used yours for evil. because everybody has a fundamental right to life--even murderers--and because we are ourselves only human, we should not be the ones meting out judgement.

                              babies deserve a right to sacred life. that is why i oppose abortion. the terminally ill should want to live. that is why i oppose euthanasia. and those that murder have a right to their sorry ass lives. that is why i oppose the death penalty.

                              besides, who said that the remainder of his days would be pleasant? hand him over to the families of those he tortured; let them torture him until the end of his days.

                              That is just, well I dont want to say the word. BUt come on. For a man who has killed maybe millions you would not put that person to death!?!?!?

                              if i can oppose giving kim jong-il the death penalty, even if he's probably starved relatives i've never met and never will to death, i can surely do the same for saddam, who hasn't killed anybody i know.
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                              • #30
                                do you not see the inherent contradiction of supporting the death penalty while opposing abortion?

                                or for those on the other side, opposing the death penalty and support abortion?
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