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  • The politics here is a lot simpler that the law.


    Your problem is that you think the law matters in this case. There's no precedent for this, which is why political decisions are going to win the day.
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    • Isn't Joe Lieberman a d*ck?

      On Meet the Press, first he said "if Howard Dean were President, Saddam would be in power and not in prison", and then 5 minutes later he turns around, uses his double face and says "today is a day we need to drop labels" and not politicise things. Turning the event into a political thing this soon is already bad enough, but turning around and giving out the soundbite to the opposite, in the same segment of the same goddamn show, is just ridiculous.
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      • Your problem is that you think the law matters in this case. There's no precedent for this, which is why political
        No precedent for war criminals to be tried in an international court? Really?
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        • No precedent for war criminals to be tried in an international court? Really?


          Not for war criminals captured in a military action that didn't have clear international sanction...
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          • Watched the conference live, that was quite interesting. A big thumbs-up to the coalition forces.

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            • Has he said where those WMD´s are?

              Edit: and yes, cool pic Mad Monk
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              • IIRC, the Iraqi Governing Council removed the death penalty. In which casem there is only one other option left for him.



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                • Originally posted by Snotty
                  Then what is he?
                  an alien?
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                  • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                    The politics here is a lot simpler that the law.


                    Your problem is that you think the law matters in this case. There's no precedent for this, which is why political decisions are going to win the day.


                    Just read up on the Iraqi council's plans for the tribunal: it would be largely based on the nuremberg model, including new changes made for new tribulas dealing with Bosnia and Rwanda, and the council members have stated that crimes vs. Iran and Kuwait would be considered. They would abide by the Geneva Convention on this matter.

                    So I was wrong to say that this Iraq court's jurisdiction was questionable, since they are basing thier tribunal on existing international ones using international law.
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                    • "Nowehere will you find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy".
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                      • Finally, now we can have the sitcom we always wanted:

                        "Slobo and Saddy" - Slobodon Milosevic has just receieved a new roomate in his cell: Saddam Hussein. Watch as Saddy uses Slobo's deoderant and snores at night. Hilarity ensues.
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                        • The http://news.bbc.co.uk/ website will probably run bushs speech live. If not I am sure they will have it afterwards when they put their normal broadcast online. You need realplayer to see it.
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                          • thats not a sitcom, thats a reality show
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                            • So I was wrong to say that this Iraq court's jurisdiction was questionable, since they are basing thier tribunal on existing international ones using international law.


                              Yes. You've yet to give one concrete reason why an Iraqi tribunal's jurisdiction would be questionable under international law. Come on, GePap, give us a reason.
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                              • ""Slobo and Saddy" - Slobodon Milosevic has just receieved a new roomate in his cell: Saddam Hussein. Watch as Saddy uses Slobo's deoderant and snores at night. Hilarity ensues."


                                They can share old memories about how nice it was to kill people and stuff....
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