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  • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
    That doesn't make it an "international tribunal" by any stretch of the imagination. I suppose you think the Nuremburg tribunals were "international" as well?
    Lets see: prosecutors from the US, UK, France and the Soviet Union all participated...yup, not international at all. Very, very un-international. You could not get less international than that.
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    • Lets see: prosecutors from the US, UK, France and the Soviet Union all participated...yup, not international at all. Very, very un-international. You could not get less international than that.


      What international governing body was it sanctioned by?

      It was a war crimes trial presided over by the victors of WWII, not an international tribunal.
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      • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
        What international governing body was it sanctioned by?
        International governing body? There were none.

        *points and laughs at Drake*
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        • Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar


          Will he not be tried in an Iraqi court?
          I think they will had him over to the Iraqies to try him. In Iraq remember there are no apeals courts ect to get in the way of the quick death he surely will be given once they convict him in a Iraq court.
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          • The resistance will now intensify?

            Why, because their cause now has no hope. Alot of people have pointed out the a Iraq radicals are not religious, but political. They were fighting in the hopes of ousting the Coalition and reinstating Saddam. Now obviously Saddam wasn't running the resistance, but I bet you all the resistance leaders told their followers that they were in personal comminication with the boss. Now their retarted pipe dream is totally blown open. Resistance might not end, but it will slacken.

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            • They were fighting in the hopes of ousting the Coalition and reinstating Saddam.
              Said who?
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              • Awesome news

                This is certainly a good omen for the future of Iraq. Now I just hope this doesn't turn into a propaganda piece. I already saw the dopes on Fox News using this to attack Democrats.

                I think he should be tried at The Hague.

                Although this is certainly good news for the situation in Iraq, I am not sure how much it will affect the jihadist elements. They hated Saddam and will continue to fight the US. But if this can help stop the Saddam loyalist insurgents, then good. At least it's some progress.

                btw, where are WMD's? maybe Saddam will tell interrogators where to find some. Even though I am starting to think they were mostly destroyed and certainly not a threat to the US, it would be nice to at least uncover SOME of them to be sure they aren't in the hands of more bad people.
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                • I thought saddam was dead.

                  or so I was told.
                  :-p

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                  • oh btw, who here thinks this might be staged? I mean, its Sunday morning, a lot of America would be watching football today, could he have been in custody already? sorry, just the tinfoil hat guy in me talking... but it certainly is food for thought.
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                    • Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                      Lets see: prosecutors from the US, UK, France and the Soviet Union all participated...yup, not international at all. Very, very un-international. You could not get less international than that.


                      What international governing body was it sanctioned by?

                      It was a war crimes trial presided over by the victors of WWII, not an international tribunal.
                      what UR said.

                      The victors of WWII happened to BE the international community (you forget the size of the coolition-everyone in the original UN, created over a year before the Nuremberg trials-was part of the anti-Axis coolition) at the time. The fact that current international tribunals see their legitimacy stemming FROM Nuremberg and use it as a model is evidence to the contrary of what you say. The very fact that the practice of putting on trial the leaders of the defeated nation for these types of crimes (did crimes against humanity even exist before Nuremberg, in a legal sense?) was a huge departure and of great meaning to international law.
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                      • International governing body? There were none.


                        No kidding. That's why it was impossible for the Nuremburg trials to be considered international tribunals.

                        *points and laughs at Drake*


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                        • The fact that current international tribunals see their legitimacy stemming FROM Nuremberg and use it as a model is evidence to the contrary of what you say.


                          The fact that international tribunals use Nuremburg as a model does not mean than Nuremburg was an international tribunal in any way.

                          Seriously, if you don't even know what an international tribunal is, why do you go to the trouble of arguing about them?
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                          • Yep your right, maybe they weren't fighting to reinstate Saddam. Maybe they were fighting against he holiday mark ups a departments stores....

                            Or perhaps they want all white candicanes...

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