Is anyone else surprised WOMD's werent planeted in iraq?

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Ned
The conspiracy theorists of the left never cease to amaze me in the intricacies of their paranoia.

Says the man who vehemetly defended the theory that NOTHING was wrong in Iraq (cause this one reporter said so) and every other news outlet in the world was lying

[Berzerker]

I'm surprised a little, maybe the Bush administration isn't as dishonest as some think. It would be interesting to see what would have happened if a large majority of Americans did care about this justification for the war. If there isn't a big motive to lie - plant WMD - then why do it? I guess that was pointed out...

[DeathByTheSword]

ok that is something that i didnt know....(about the support to attack saddam)...but then my next question: was there anything in the reasoning of US citizens because of 11-09 or is Iraq a totally different thing? where i am to young for to remember

[DanS]

Don't know. 9/11 didn't change the 62% support number.

[Ramo]

The conspiracy theorists of the left never cease to amaze me in the intricacies of their paranoia.

This coming from the guy who believes that Shrub is hiding evidence of a Saddam-al-Qaeda connection to suprise the Dems.

[Berzerker]

Many were led to believe Saddam was connected to 9/11 so it's not entirely different. Many people supported the invasion because of Gulf War I, because Saddam is a butcher, and some believe a more friendly "democracy" smack dab between Iran and Syria will help Israel and the ME in general. There are all sorts of reasons to support ousting Saddam and few to mind our own business, so when you combine all the groups with their particular reasons they probably outnumber the dissenters, and even many dissenters understand the rational for invading. And then there's the sentiment of supporting the President in time of crisis...

[Ned]

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar


Says the man who vehemetly defended the theory that NOTHING was wrong in Iraq (cause this one reporter said so) and every other news outlet in the world was lying

Who, another accurate summary from the unfair and unbalanced.

[DeathByTheSword]

ok..i understand the gulf-war I and even the democracy in the ME...but if saddam is a butcher and the US wants to get rid of butchers why dont they invade in several other countries to...and i dont like the idea of forcing democracy on to people that clearly dont want it...yet...but ok in general I can understand the ideas behind the attack...and i will stop asking now "...tnx all....(still aposed to the war...but 100% for the rebuilding of Iraq after the war )

[Japher]

I'm not really suprised at all. Bush probably thought if he planted Nukes a "nuke-tree" would grow, and who want more nukes in the mid-east?

Seriously, once we saw innocent ppl getting mowed down by Saddam all excuses went out the door. For me - a die hard repub, Bush supporter, past voter of Bush, future voter of Bush, and supporter of our actions there - that was enough of a reason. I think he got lucky, but like my dad always says, "I'd rather be lucky than good any day."

[Berzerker]

Sword - there are people who want to attack countries engaged in genocide or similar activities, the US attacked Serbia because of it's behavior in Bosnia/Kosovo, and the US involvement in Somalia was largely in response to warlords using food and starvation as a weapon against competitors, but when all you have is that one reason, the task of convincing a majority becomes more difficult. With Iraq there were a number of reasons, not just his treatment of Iraqis. Let's not forget most of the Dems and Repubs were not beating the war drums back in the 80's when Saddam was committing atrocities, so they only found Iraq's crimes a convenient excuse once they had other reasons to invade Iraq.

[Ned]

Originally posted by DeathByTheSword
ok..i understand the gulf-war I and even the democracy in the ME...but if saddam is a butcher and the US wants to get rid of butchers why dont they invade in several other countries to...and i dont like the idea of forcing democracy on to people that clearly dont want it...yet...but ok in general I can understand the ideas behind the attack...and i will stop asking now "...tnx all....(still aposed to the war...but 100% for the rebuilding of Iraq after the war )

Despite the appearance of omnipotence, we have our hands full as it is with Iraq, Afghanistan and Korea.

We really could use the help of the French, Germans and Russians. But they seem more interested in selling weapons for cash to the enemies of the United States, such as Saddam.

[DanS]

but if saddam is a butcher and the US wants to get rid of butchers why dont they invade in several other countries to...

You can only do what you can do. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't do anything.

[Berzerker]

Or more accurately, attack those who can't fight back.

[DanS]

Well, opportunities are opportunities. You can't attack without an opportunity.

[Sandman]

It could be that they believed their own lies. It happens quite often to people in important positions.