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Yeah, we all know Buchanan is a closet red."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Originally posted by Drogue
I'd love it to happen, but I seriously doubt it. Unless the WoT goes really badly, a higher tax, more regulation candidate, standing against an incumbent who can be attacked for being unpatriotic will need a hell of a campaign, and GWB to mess his up, to win.
Highly unlikely, IMHO, but possible.
I guess the right's propaganda is going to be hard to beat. Somewhere along the line, restoring our progressive tax code got distorted into higher taxes. It's funny because taxes for everyone under $375,000 income bracket would be less under Gore's plan. Not to mention health care costs, education costs, and the loss of jobs that are making things much worse than a few % of income tax would. I guess someone needs to point out that even though Bush cut's federal income tax a little bit (and giving billions to the richest) that other taxes, like state and local, go up because of a lack of federal funding for certain things and a weakened economy. I think people are beginning to realize that these dopey supply side tactics don't work and just benefit corporations.
Also, I think Americans are fed up with corporations running their lives. Teddy Roosevelt was a great regulation candidate who helped clean up a lot of abuses. I think Dean will do a lot in that respect. The people will have to make a choice. Do they want a candidate who will improve their quality of life? Or do they want a candidate who will leave the people powerless to combat corporate abuse and crony capitalism, relying on charities and the rich to give their pittance.
BTW, CNN reported a new poll showing Bush losing 49% to 42% to an "unnamed Democrat"... I guess that means the Dem's could nominate a cactus and still win.
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Yeah, we all know Buchanan is a closet red.
On that issue? It's the same effect.
CNN reported a new poll showing Bush losing 49% to 42% to an "unnamed Democrat".
Which drops greatly when the Democrat is named. Unnamed party someone have no negatives, actual candidates do.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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Sava: I agree, but I think GWBs position is far easier to publicise, and that Dean will be seen as a higher tax candidate by the people. I don't give the public enough credit to be able to see the follow on effects much.
And while that's true, other polls show Bush winning against every Dem nominee. It all depends on how the WoT goes, and if people get fed up of Enron style scandals and want it cleaned up. I can't see it happening, but I hope so.
A lot can happen, but I think GWB has by far the easiest position to sell to the people and is the incumbent (hard to run against). I think the odds are strongly in GWBs favour
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Sure, the fair trade left and the protectionist right are identical. It's not like the left is arguing for fewer agrisubsidies or opposing the shoving of IP down the throats of the third world or is fighting for worker rights to unionize or anything like that.On that issue? It's the same effect."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Sure, the fair trade left and the protectionist right are identical. It's not like the left is arguing for fewer agrisubsidies or opposing the shoving of IP down the throats of the third world or is fighting for worker rights to unionize or anything like that.
The effect the same... raising tariffs. The other stuff is just insignificant details. Why do you think the unions that protested in Seattle vote for Buchanan?“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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Kiss of death or a good thing? Is there anything you americans can agree on?
Really I should not try to learn your politics from Apolyton
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VetLegion: good for Dean. Kiss of death for the democrats chances in gaining the White House.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Which the far left generally opposes.The effect the same... raising tariffs."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Which the far left generally opposes.
So the Seattle crowd was for lower tariffs? Please.
'Fair trade' is union code word for protectionist tariffs.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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A lot of them were. The last thing the Seattle crowd was, would be a monolithic bloc."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Xenophobic protectionism is fair trade considering what some of the other nations we trade with are doing.Comment
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Joe Lieberman must have felt punched below the belt by Gore's announcement.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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This is the very bitter end for Joe.Originally posted by MrFun
Joe Lieberman must have felt punched below the belt by Gore's announcement.
Gore's endorsement of Dean while Joe is still in the race tells everyone who, or rather, what Gore really is.http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=enComment
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Originally posted by Ned
Gore's endorsement of Dean while Joe is still in the race tells everyone who, or rather, what Gore really is.
Yeah, that he'll endorse someone whom he shares more political beliefs with. Dean is much more akin to Gore in his stances than Lieberman.
Gore is probably also thinking about the trend (Dean emerging as front runner) and trying to unify the Democrats early behind one candidate to avoid the damage of a bitter primary season. The sooner a victorious candidate can emerge, the less scathed he will be. Since Lieberman already has 0% shot at getting the nomination, backing the clear front runner would make total sense in this regard.
Oh, wait I forgot--all Democrats must be evil, rotten people. Why not just have bot post "Democrats suck!" instead of bothering to post, Ned?Tutto nel mondo è burlaComment
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