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  • #31
    Originally posted by Ned


    Axi, indeed it was dumb to send foot soldiers into combat with millions of homocidal bugs. But that movie, as with Saving Private Ryan, really put the scare into one like few other movies. Everyone praises SPR because of its realism. Part of that realism is the gut-wrenching fear that combat induces in one. Starship Trooper had that in spades as well.
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    Originally posted by axi
    I voted for Apocalypse now.

    I has 2 times more classic scenes than all other films put together.

    As for the guy who mentioned "Starship Troopers": Apart from it being scifi, tell me, where's the was in that one? What one sees in that film is nothing but endless slaughter, which is caused by the screaming lack of firepower on the troopers side. They were all on foot and carriying low caliber weapons for crying out loud! An armored battalion would have slaughtered those bugs anytime, but those boys were all on foot!


    Starship Troopers also has 2 classical scenes

    1) The mixed gender shower scene ( o Y o ) !!!
    2) The Brain Bug sucking the guy's head out AARRGGHH!!!

    But it is crappy for an enless number of reasons.
    1) What is the probability for an insect-like creature on a planet in another solar system to be able to pick up a huge stone, give it high enough velocity to leave the planet, make the stone travel trough space into another solar system, hit the earth in it's orbit and destroy a major town, when the greater part of earth is water and most of the land mass is inhabited?
    2) How could the human retaliation force reach the other solar system within what seems to be just a month or two?
    3) I hardly doubt that the intention of the humans would be to conquer the enemy planet, but rather to destroy the threath and get back home. So why did they land 1000's of infantry soldiers before they bombed or nuked the ugly bugs to ashes?

    It's still a crappy movie, and it's not on the list, because it's not a modern war movie, it's a FUTURE war movie...
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    • #32
      i'm gonna have to say "we were soldiers" . . . i'm not a movie critic or anything, but out of that list, it's my personal favorite
      Much better than I expected, but I guess my expectations were mis-placed, I should have known Mel Gibson wouldn't let his homage to Vietnam be lacking.

      I still have to go with Patton, GC Scott was great. Unfortunately the large scale of the movie wouldn't allow the use of somewhat genuine equipment. Sorry, but seeing Patton tanks with German emblems was a let down. That's why I like Kelly's Heroes and Saving Private Ryan, the use of German equipment was cool. Another war movie I liked was Sink the Bismarck, good naval action...

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Chemical Ollie
        Patton is to old for me to remember. It's not like it's on DVD
        LIAR!






        And what do you mean too old? It came out in the 70s. All Quiet on the Western Front is from the 30s, at least the first film version is. The newer one is from 1971. Just admit it. You hate America. I knew it.

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        • #34
          My vote would probably go to Cross of Iron by Sam Peckinpah, or Stalingrad.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Verto


            LIAR!






            And what do you mean too old? It came out in the 70s. All Quiet on the Western Front is from the 30s, at least the first film version is. The newer one is from 1971. Just admit it. You hate America. I knew it.
            So, I missed it. I'm a chemist, not a cultural journalist or an expert on the topic. Thanks for reminding me, though. It surely qualifies into the second last choice of the poll.
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            • #36
              I like the musical score in Patton too

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              • #37
                Duh. DP
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Berzerker
                  I like the musical score in Patton too
                  Does it beat River Kwai or Apolcalypse Now?
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                  • #39
                    I'm going with Band of Brothers. The effects are excellent, and the story, in my view, is much more compelling than that of Saving Private Ryan (probably because it's true). It was also very well cast.

                    I love Saving Private Ryan as well. The realism of it is absolutely stunning. I also like FMJ. It's absolutely surreal, and it gives me the creeps. And who could forget R. Lee Ermey as SDI Hartman?
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                    • #40
                      You should have put a couple of films with Telly Savalas.

                      Battle of the Bulge
                      The Dirty Dozen
                      Kelly's Heroes

                      and also some classics, like the "Guns of Navarone"
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                      • #41
                        Ollie - Just giving you a hard time; no real offense intended.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Chemical Ollie
                          Duh - I forgot "Enemy at the Gates"!

                          "Work in pairs, the first guy picks a rifle and five rounds, the second guy picks five rounds and follows in his path. When the first guy sees the enemy, he aims and shoots. When the first guy dies, the second guy picks up his rifle and shoots..."


                          That scene alone is so classical, it's mandatory to watch!
                          You actually get to play that scene in the new game Call of Duty just like you got to play the beach assault from Saving Private Ryan in the Medal of Honor game.
                          http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                          • #43
                            Does it beat River Kwai or Apolcalypse Now?
                            Yup, won oscar

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by axi
                              You should have put a couple of films with Telly Savalas.

                              Battle of the Bulge
                              The Dirty Dozen
                              Kelly's Heroes

                              and also some classics, like the "Guns of Navarone"
                              I had 3 of those 4 in mind, but left them out of the poll because they were just patriotic crap. But if you like Salavas, how about "The longest day"
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Ned


                                You actually get to play that scene in the new game Call of Duty just like you got to play the beach assault from Saving Private Ryan in the Medal of Honor game.
                                Yeah, my brother-in-law told me that
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