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  • #16
    Edit: Make that "Rambo: First Blood"
    Last edited by axi; December 5, 2003, 21:52.
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    • #17
      I'm undecided between Platoon and Apocalypse Now. All Quiet on the Western Front was the greatest anti-war novel (and will be for at least another 7 months ) but the film versions sucked big time. Remarques sequel, "The Road Back", is badly underrated.

      Enemy at the Gates was a reasonably good film, but it was too cheesy, and bore little relation to what actually happened. I also cried when Sacha got hung . I'm a sensitive chap...
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      • #18
        The wonderful irony of "Pearl Harbour"...

        An ultra-patriotic American movie released in 2001 - and the heroes are pilots flying a suicide bombing mission - just like the *******s of 911!
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        • #19
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          • #20
            Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back

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            • #21
              Chemical Ollie, perhaps that movie was Rukajärven Tie? It's based on a true story.. but I didn't like it too much.. I think at the end it was too much Rambo style.. Then again they say that's how it happened, but I wished it was toned down ab it, because it's a bit unrealistic, and I think it's bad for the real story, to portray it like that.. too rambo!
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              • #22
                Enemy at the Gates the best war movie ever!!
                >>> El cine se lee en dvdplay <<<

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Pekka
                  Chemical Ollie, perhaps that movie was Rukajärven Tie? It's based on a true story.. but I didn't like it too much.. I think at the end it was too much Rambo style.. Then again they say that's how it happened, but I wished it was toned down ab it, because it's a bit unrealistic, and I think it's bad for the real story, to portray it like that.. too rambo!
                  Well, I remember one very strong scene - one of the Finns checking out what's beyond a bridge over a small river, and runs right into a Russian ambush - the opposite bank is filled with Russians, who hoses him down with hundreds of 9 mm bullets and he falls off the bridge and ends up at the bottom of the river. His friends retreat, but he somehow swims to the surface and come crawling back to his unit, alive!. Then someone rows a boat back to Repola with him in it (or something like that, can't remember exaclty).
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                  • #24
                    Well then it's Rukajärven Tie. Oh yeah, that's one scene too that I think was too much.. The guy gets shot 68 times, drops into the water, everyone decides to go home and this dude walks emerges and walks their all by himself, angry that they left him? Yeah, gimme a break. Even if it really happened, they could have played it differenlty, not getting hit 98 times. Even if he really got hit 294 times, I wish they had made it differently.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Pekka
                      Well then it's Rukajärven Tie. Oh yeah, that's one scene too that I think was too much.. The guy gets shot 68 times, drops into the water, everyone decides to go home and this dude walks emerges and walks their all by himself, angry that they left him? Yeah, gimme a break. Even if it really happened, they could have played it differenlty, not getting hit 98 times. Even if he really got hit 294 times, I wish they had made it differently.
                      Yeah, you are right. Even if it's a strong war movie, it won't qualify for the list for two reasons: 1) It's too unrealistic and 2) No one outside the Nordic region would know about it
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by axi
                        Edit: Make that "Rambo: First Blood"
                        I could agree on that, except that it is more of a police movie than a war movie. But no matter what genre you place it in, it's one of the classics. The sewing in the biceps wound was a first-timer.
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                        • #27
                          I still can't believe you've got trash like Pearl Harbor on the poll, but didn't put in Patton. I mean, C'MON!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Chemical Ollie
                            Duh - I forgot "Enemy at the Gates"!

                            "Work in pairs, the first guy picks a rifle and five rounds, the second guy picks five rounds and follows in his path. When the first guy sees the enemy, he aims and shoots. When the first guy dies, the second guy picks up his rifle and shoots..."


                            That scene alone is so classical, it's mandatory to watch!
                            That is great, but even better is the bit a little later on where you can just make out a Soviet soldier cry out 'it's useless comrades!' and then they fall back, only to be machine-gunned by their own support team for 'cowardice'. The note of utter despair in the guys voice, is, however, classic!
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by axi
                              I voted for Apocalypse now.

                              I has 2 times more classic scenes than all other films put together.

                              As for the guy who mentioned "Starship Troopers": Apart from it being scifi, tell me, where's the was in that one? What one sees in that film is nothing but endless slaughter, which is caused by the screaming lack of firepower on the troopers side. They were all on foot and carriying low caliber weapons for crying out loud! An armored battalion would have slaughtered those bugs anytime, but those boys were all on foot!
                              Axi, indeed it was dumb to send foot soldiers into combat with millions of homocidal bugs. But that movie, as with Saving Private Ryan, really put the scare into one like few other movies. Everyone praises SPR because of its realism. Part of that realism is the gut-wrenching fear that combat induces in one. Starship Trooper had that in spades as well.
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                              • #30
                                Patton is to old for me to remember. It's not like it's on DVD
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