New News -- Cincannitti Police Officers Killed an Attacker

[Zylka]

Moving, derailed trains and Galactus on BZ gas

[Ned]

So, as we learn more, putting the obese man on his stomach with hands behind his back may have caused him to stop breathing. The cops saw this and did nothing for three minutes.

My God, what a bad situation. You gotta feel for the victim even if he somewhat brought this on himself.

[Zylka]

It really is terrible with that known

Christ, aren't they to know full out the standard first aid procedures?

[Berzerker]

Jimmytrick - to subdue suspects although I'm not sure why this guy was suspect. And they have training on how to use batons to avoid fatal injuries, apparently they didn't have training in CPR or basic human physiology or they wouldn't have suffocated the guy and let him die.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Berzerker
Can you be more specific and shall we move that debate here now?

Let's not take the other debate here -- but go back, and look at your statement you made in my other thread about gays and cultural contributions.

End of discussion on that here -- respond in the relevant thread.

[Berzerker]

I did, it was a joke. Obviously one you didn't find funny... But I did...

[MrFun]

What a difference a few hours make -- I get back on here, and I replied here before looking at the other thread.

[Berzerker]

Me too

[MrFun]

Well that makes me feel a LITTLE less stupid.

[Timexwatch]

I'm surprised that for once Zylka's pharmaceutical expertise has been used for a constructive post.

[Dis]

I have reversed my position on this.

First of all the cops had no business harrassing the guy. If they had left him alone none of this would have happened. And then they cause the big man to exert himself causing him to die. If the cops left him alone he would still be alive. Sure he may have only lived a year or two, but he'd still be alive.

And finally the lack of actions when they realized he wasn't breathing.

I won't say charge them with murder. But maybe negligant homide or manslaughter possibly.

Yes the coroner calling this a homicide helped sway my change of position. The coroner could have called this an accident, but he didn't

[DinoDoc]

I have trouble telling when you aren't trolling anymore.

[Dis]

Originally posted by jimmytrick
Okay, maybe I am dense but if the cops aren't supposed to use their sticks on an agressive 400lb. pcp lit, coked up guy, when are they supposed to use their sticks and what are they supposed to use them for?

I have no problem with them using the sticks. That is perfectly legal. What I saw on the video tape doesn't constitute a police beating. I do not consider this police brutality, but I do think the cops are responsible for his death.

[Dis]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I have trouble telling when you aren't trolling anymore.

I can't tell either

I don't consider this police brutality as I said above. The police acted according to the book to get this guy cuffed. They are supposed to use the sticks in that way. But the fact they did nothing when the guy wasn't breathing

The police are going to have to review cuffing people's arms behind their back. They should probably cuff people's arms in front of them. If they do cuff people's arms behind their back they should not do it while putting weight on them.

on second thought maybe the cops shouldn't be charged with a crime, but I'm okay with a lawsuit against the police department.

[SpencerH]

I dont think anyone is still arguing that the cops used excessive force. Now the question is why nothing was done when he wasnt breathing?