I'm pro choice but this is an abortion too far.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by Verres


Agreed. It does sound as though its verging on eugenics in this case.....but before the baby (please note, im not saying 'foetus' ) is capable of surviving outside the womb, i think it remains the choice of the parents - however messed up their reasons may appear.

I don't have a problem with eugenics, so naturally I don't have a problem with abortion. All parents should have the right to choose the attributes of their offspring.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
What's the big deal? It's not like a thinking being was killed.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

[chequita guevara]

Fetuses are incapable of thought, just random neural impulses in the cerebral cortex. A chicken has more consciousness than a fetus.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Fetuses are incapable of thought, just random neural impulses in the cerebral cortex. A chicken has more consciousness than a fetus.

[DinoDoc]

We aren't talking about a first trimester abortion here che. You still sound like you don't know what you're talking about.

[Enigma_Nova]

Above hypothesis would lead to the destruction of many adults in addition to children

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I know of a kid that was literate at 11 months (i.e. ME) so don't make the erroneous claim that children are incapable of thinking.

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That said, I'm pro-choice. Or Pro-adoption. The idea being that unmotivated parents are lousy parents, and it is preferable to bring as little anguish to children as possible.
I mean if you're just going to create a kid that's prolly gonna commit suicide anyway...

[DinoDoc]

I thought you were busy trolling the Hot or Not thread.

[Sarxis]

Unwanted children being aborted?

A live dog is better than a dead lion.

[Verres]

Not if its a rabid dog.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
We aren't talking about a first trimester abortion here che. You still sound like you don't know what you're talking about.

I do know what I'm talking about. Even newborns aren't capable of organized frontal cortex functions. Best they can manage are reflex/instinctive actions. Since this is the part o your brain that makes you you, before it's working, there is no you. Hence, aborting a child even minutes befoer labor, while distatesful, is nothing moer than removing a hangnail, unconscious flesh.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Hence, aborting a child even minutes before labor, while distatesful, is nothing moer than removing a hangnail, unconscious flesh.

Why the artificial deadline? Carry the line of thinking to its conclusion.

[Caligastia]

You have a point DinoDoc. I'd like to see your answer Che.

[Sava]

DD: Deadline is easy... when it is born, it can't be aborted.

Partial-birth, for instance, abortion is actually a misnomer... a concocted term by the anti-choice crowd, hell bent on demonizing everything they don't like. The fetus is simply removed before it is terminated in cases where an internal abortion threatens the health of the mother. But people have this uninformed idea that a mother is in the middle of the delivery process and just says, "oh I don't want the kid, stick a fork in its brain...", and hence, a medically safe and necessary procedure gets put on the chopping block, even though the biggest organization of OB/GYN doctors says it is a medical procedure necessary to prevent the death of the mother.

Ideally, abortions should be done as early as possible. But sometimes, there are defects, or health risks, that don't get discovered until late in the pregnancy. That's why I say we should leave these decisions up to the doctors and the parents, not some Holier-than-thou dopes who want to impose their will onto others; or corrupt politicians pandering to that segment of the population to get votes.

[chequita guevara]

Sava's got it.

[Imran Siddiqui]

DD: Deadline is easy... when it is born, it can't be aborted.

He asked 'why' that artificial deadline, not what is your deadline .