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  • I'm pro choice but this is an abortion too far.

    I know this has been gone over many times but this is a newish angle(for the UK anyway)

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    aborting the foetus late because it has a cleft palate is in my opinion wrong and clearly in breach of UK law.
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    That does seem to cry eugenics.
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    • #3


      what next, people aborting late because they don't like the eye or hair colour of their baby.
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      • #4
        I would like to be able to abort if I don't like the child's personality.
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        • #5
          I'm pro choice but this is an abortion too far.
          Uhh, if you are pro-choice I fail to see the problem you would have wrt this abortion other than the date it was caried out.
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          • #6
            We pro-lifers have been warning about this for a long time.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Osweld
              I would like to be able to abort if I don't like the child's personality.


              I think we should be allowed to abort them until they are 18.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DinoDoc
                Uhh, if you are pro-choice I fail to see the problem you would have wrt this abortion other than the date it was caried out.
                Because abortion, like all things, is not a black-and-white issue.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Theben
                  Because abortion, like all things, is not a black-and-white issue.
                  Do you generally support such procedures that take place after that date? If you do, then I fail to see what possible problem you could have with this one because her reasons for it should be irrelevent to you. If you don't then I can see where you might have a problem with what happened.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DinoDoc
                    I'm pro choice but this is an abortion too far.
                    Uhh, if you are pro-choice I fail to see the problem you would have wrt this abortion other than the date it was caried out.
                    Up to 24 weeks (although 22 might be more appropriate) i am pro choice although i don't like it much.

                    The UK law says if you want an abortion after 24 weeks there have to be exceptional circumstances e.g severe disabilty or risk to the Mother that does not appear to be the case here.
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                    • #11
                      What does having a cleft palate entail anyway?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DinoDoc
                        Do you generally support such procedures that take place after that date? If you do, then I fail to see what possible problem you could have with this one because her reasons for it should be irrelevent to you. If you don't then I can see where you might have a problem with what happened.
                        And you've answered your own question.
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                        • #13
                          Why is aborting a fetus because it has a cleft palate any worse than aborting a fetus because you can't be arsed to take care of it? Seriously, I'm drawing a blank on that one.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TheStinger
                            The UK law says if you want an abortion after 24 weeks there have to be exceptional circumstances ...
                            The law only mentions "severe abnormality" and which is undefined and aparently left up to the descretion of the doctor.
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                            • #15
                              Stinger is pro choice? The first thing in common. I know a family, which is pretty religious in the good sense actually really enlightened kind people, which has detected a brain abnormality in the fetus which will result in very limited intelligence (borderline) capability and which would mean that they would have to take care of their child for the rest of their lives. Instead of a discontinuation they simply prepared the room and started seeing specialist doctors and reading the relevant books so as to be ready for their child when it will be born. Commentable too.

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