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**Combat Ingrid** · November 21, 2003, 11:35

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**Drake Tungsten** · November 21, 2003, 11:35

What did Ronnie ever do that was heroic?

He defeated the dirty Commies, the scum of the earth. A true hero.

**chequita guevara** · November 21, 2003, 11:39

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Che... one more post like that and you are toast... enough with your personal attacks.

**Al B. Sure!** · November 21, 2003, 11:42

Typical Speer troll, asking a question aout something he doesn't know anything about.

um... why would i ask a question about something i know everything about?

**Q Classic** · November 21, 2003, 11:43

He defeated the dirty Commies, the scum of the earth.

i like how people give credit to a man who just so happened to be lucky enough to be around near when it happen, and shortchanging all of the little people who were the ones who actually did defeat the communist system.

i mean, we all realize now, i guess, that the regular american citizen who took pride in his country's democracy, or the pole who struggled with solidarnosc or the germans who fled across the berlin wall seeking a new democratic life had nothing to do with the downfall of a grossly unpopular government whose only claim to power was that it had more guns than any individual?

**Tripledoc** · November 21, 2003, 11:43

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

What did Ronnie ever do that was heroic?

He defeated the dirty Commies, the scum of the earth. A true hero.

Is it because people are considered 'dirty' and 'the scum of the earth' that they decide to become 'commies', or do 'commies' automatically become such when they make that decision?

**Drake Tungsten** · November 21, 2003, 11:46

I consider myself both scum and an ardent anti-Communist...

**chequita guevara** · November 21, 2003, 11:47

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

What did Ronnie ever do that was heroic?

He defeated the dirty Commies

Since he didn't risk anything of his own, I hardly see that qualfying as heroic. Heroes are people who put their lives and property at risk for others. Like the NYC police and firefighters during 9/11, or Coast Guard divers who jump into stormy seas to rescue folks.

**Drake Tungsten** · November 21, 2003, 11:48

Couldn't you at least quote my whole post? It's just common courtesy...

**chequita guevara** · November 21, 2003, 11:49

Originally posted by Albert Speer
um... why would i ask a question about something i know everything about?

It wasn't a genuine question, but a vehical for you to complain abuot how cynical our society is.

**chequita guevara** · November 21, 2003, 11:50

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Couldn't you at least quote my whole post?

I'm trying to save electrons.

**Al B. Sure!** · November 21, 2003, 11:54

so anyway... you're saying greeks were cynnical about soldiers as heroes back in the peloponessian wars? i wouldnt blame though as those wars did quite a bit of damage to greece and paved the way for Macedonian subjugation. just a generation before, however, the men who died at Marathon, Salamis, and Thermopylae were almost diefied.

**chequita guevara** · November 21, 2003, 12:01

The general who lead Greece to victory over the Persians (Themistokoles) was ostracized from his city of Athens following the victory. Maybe you should learn something about Greek history before trying to challenge me.

**Tripledoc** · November 21, 2003, 12:14

When did the last hero die?

I think that the medieval Spanish text The Poem of the
Cid is the latest Heroic Epic in litterature. Commonly know as El Cid (1043- 1099) he was a Castilian military leader and national hero who fought the Moors. When he was 22 he was appointed standardbearer by the King.

Maybe there are some texts which date after this one?

**Urban Ranger** · November 21, 2003, 12:27

We just got a new hero here, our first cosmonaut.

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