Taiwan tells China to piss off...

[Q Classic]

i still don't see a chinese invasion of taiwan. they're like a couple who is "separated", but they get together every weekend to from hot, wet, wild, and funky buttf*ckin' (kinda like france and germany), only to ***** about each other all the other days of the week.

[Alinestra Covelia]

Eloquently put That's exactly what I think of the situation.

Also don't forget that the two are comprised people, not politicians. Many families like my own have large numbers of members in both regions and we want peace just as badly as we want reunification.

[Q Classic]

yeah, but you can at least see those relatives.

i've got some long lost ones on the northern side. will i ever know them or see them?

doubtful. the taiwanese and chinese have it much better with their -ahem- arrangement.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia
You all lack vision. I think the only way to go is for China to develop Death Knights and Necromancers.

They would be easily brushed aside by Taiwanese Faerie Dragons and Demon Hunters.

[Alinestra Covelia]

Then the USA will send in their Stone Giant.

[DinoDoc]

See! China doesn't stand a chance until they can start producing sufficent Frost Wyrms and buy enough Goblin Zeppelins to mount an invasion.

[Alinestra Covelia]

You know what? You're right.

Sometimes you just have to use your GPS Satellite.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by POTUS
Based on the projections almost the entire world uses for amphibious assualts (based on Normandy), China would easily be defeated.

Years ago, the CCP army was also projected to be unable to cross the Yangtze.

They don't have to. If they want to mess with Taiwan, as much as one missile crosses the island and drop into the ocean on the other side, you will see money flee and stock market crash.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Years ago, the CCP army was also projected to be unable to cross the Yangtze.

Well unless they've actually been hidding Frost Wyrms and Goblin Zeppelins they severely lack enough assets to realistically mount an invasion of the island. I don't really care how many smilie face you put after your response.

If they want to mess with Taiwan, as much as one missile crosses the island and drop into the ocean on the other side

I haven't seen the RoK crash and burn yet.

[Drake Tungsten]

Taiwan tells China to piss off... again!

Taiwan vote risks China's wrath

TAIPEI, Taiwan -- Taiwan's parliament has passed legislation allowing the island to hold referendums on sensitive issues such as changing its constitution or official name, despite repeated warnings from China.

Beijing has expressed fears the move could lead to a vote on independence, which would violate its "One China" policy, and warned of a "strong response."

Last week, Vice-Minister at China's Taiwan Affairs Office Wang Zaixi said Taiwan's President Chen Shui-bian's pro-separatist activities had crossed Beijing's "red line," with the island running "the risk of triggering a war" with the mainland. (China renews threat)

China insists self-ruled, democratic Taiwan is a renegade province, and must eventually unify, by force, if necessary.

Taipei legislators have spent days haggling the legislation, and were split over whether referendums can be held to initiate changes in the constitution.

But on Thursday, the chamber passed it into law 114 to 96.

In another measure, Taiwan lawmakers passed a separate proposal which would allow the president the power to hold an independence referendum should China attack the island.

Called a "defensive referendum" clause, such a plebiscite would take place if China used military force to make Taiwan agree to unification.

The measure was passed by the chamber 108-82.

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/east/11/27/taiwan.vote/index.html

Take that, you commie bastards!

[mindseye]

Re: Taiwan tells China to piss off... again!

Take that, you commie bastards!

Communists? In China? Where?

[mindseye]

I grow ever more confident in China's current top leadership...

Beijing Softens Its Stance Against New Legislation in Taiwan
By KEITH BRADSHER

Published: November 29, 2003

TAIPEI, Taiwan, Nov. 28 — Beijing shifted its response on Friday to new Taiwanese legislation on national referendums, expressing concern about the law and repeating previous warnings to this island against seeking formal independence but stopping short of any threats.

The official New China News Agency had initially posted a commentary on its Internet site noting that the referendum legislation removed "the imminent danger of Taiwanese independence."

By Friday evening, a separate brief statement was added, quoting a spokesman for the Chinese government's Taiwan Affairs Office. "We are deeply concerned about relevant things concerning `referendum legislation' in Taiwan and are paying close attention to the development of the issue," he said, adding no specifics.

The statement closed with a warning that any attempt to separate Taiwan from China "will not be tolerated absolutely." But in contrast with three warnings earlier this week of the possible use of force if a broad referendum law passed, the statement made no explicit threats.

Beijing has regarded Taiwan as a renegade province ever since the Nationalists lost China's civil war to the Communists in 1949 and retreated here.

The return on Friday to vague, albeit critical statements, was read by experts here as a sign of easing tension. A Chinese statement earlier this week had referred to Taiwan as a "shen sheng," or sacred, part of China, a term seldom used in recent years and viewed in Taiwan as a signal of great anger and intransigence in Beijing.

"I had goose bumps coming up when I saw it," said Su Chi, an influential Nationalist Party adviser on Taiwan Straits issues and a former minister for relations with China.

President Chen Shui-bian and his Democratic Progressive Party backed away on Thursday afternoon from previous demands by the party's pro-independence wing for broad legislation authorizing the use of referendums to pursue changes in the Constitution and sovereignty. In the end, the legislature approved a narrow version supported by the Nationalist Party and People First Party, which favor eventual political reunification with the mainland.

Politicians here said in interviews on Friday that a new consensus seemed to be emerging that the presidential campaign now getting started should be fought more on economic issues than on the potentially inflammatory sovereignty issue.

The more moderate tone follows several strong statements from American officials to Taiwanese reporters in Washington in the last week that the Bush administration does not want a crisis in the Taiwan Strait.

A senior Taiwanese government official spoke Friday of an acute wariness of angering the United States by allowing any crisis to develop with China when the Bush administration was already preoccupied with Iraq and North Korea.

"People here in the political parties know this is not a time to offend our friends, especially when our friends need a more peaceful time" in the Taiwan Straits, the official said. "We are aware of the reality. We are pretty realistic."

The referendum law passed by the legislature may be unconstitutional in allowing the legislature to call referendums but making it extremely difficult for the president to do so. For this reason, President Chen may veto the law or ask the legislature to amend it or ask Taiwan's Supreme Court, the Council of Grand Justice, to issue an interpretation of the law.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/29/international/asia/29TAIW.html

[Drake Tungsten]

Communists? In China? Where?

The PRC is still run by the Chinese Communist Party, even if they are more fascist than communist at this point in time.

Looks like Taiwan successfully called China's bluff, BTW.

[Urban Ranger]

Re: Taiwan tells China to piss off... again!

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Take that, you commie bastards!

As I pointed out elsewhere, that's a much weaker version of the thang that Chen wants it to be.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

Communists? In China? Where?

The PRC is still run by the Chinese Communist Party, even if they are more fascist than communist at this point in time.

Ah, but the PRC is called the People's Republic of China, meaning its not fascist at all. They say so