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  • #31
    Re: Are rationality and reason over-rated?

    Originally posted by Park Avenue
    Humans aren't rational creatures so it is really sensible to use these as arguments for beliefs?
    Is that your gut feeling, or do you have any logical arguments for it?
    (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
    (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
    (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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    • #32
      It's important to have a grasp of both logical and intuitive means of understanding your world. Too much logic and you are a nerd who doesn't really get people, including yourself often enough. Too much squishy intuitiveness and you are a Green party member who is against nuclear power because you are against global warming, and you wonder why no one votes for the Greens.
      He's got the Midas touch.
      But he touched it too much!
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      • #33
        You know what??

        This thread's topic sounds too much like post-modernist nonsense.


        BLAH
        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Sikander
          Too much squishy intuitiveness and you are a Green party member who is against nuclear power because you are against global warming, and you wonder why no one votes for the Greens.
          'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
          G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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          • #35
            Is that your gut feeling, or do you have any logical arguments for it?


            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • #36
              "yeah, like continue the existence of the species when it's abundantly clear the earth doesn't deserve our treatment of it."

              This in itself is an irrational idea: why would the earth care if we ruin its ecosystem or not? It's just rock and magma, with some organic matter that happens to be on top. The idea that we are unworthy of nature is totally and completely irrational.

              Indeed, irrationality is underrated because it is so misunderstood. It is not mere non-sequiters: rather it is the realization of the small miracles of life. The ability to have coffee in the morning: how did you get to this cup of coffee from your childhood? An amazing sequence of events had to occurr for you to enjoy the moment you have right now.

              Understanding irrationality and the complete delusion is the key to enjoying life.

              For me, anyway.
              "mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
              Drake Tungsten
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              • #37
                ...well I'm not really enjoying this coffee, it's from a vending machine Although it gives me caffeine
                Speaking of Erith:

                "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                • #38
                  I hope not, they are the only good qualities I have.

                  humans aren't rational? Well I guess I'm not human. Although I always do feel kind of alien sometimes. sometimes it seems I have nothing in common with irrational illogical normal people.

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                  • #39
                    I know that feeling well. Humans are so strange and primitive...
                    Speaking of Erith:

                    "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                    • #40
                      In my opinion, rationality and logic do not exist.
                      "mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
                      Drake Tungsten
                      "get contacts, get a haircut, get better clothes, and lose some weight"
                      Albert Speer

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                      • #41
                        You can always spot an arts student...
                        Speaking of Erith:

                        "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by monolith94
                          Indeed, irrationality is underrated because it is so misunderstood.
                          I don't think that's the case. Rather, we didn't become civilised by being irrational.
                          (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                          (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                          (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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