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**Giancarlo** · October 28, 2003, 19:47

I cannot agree with you MtG. And show some proof. That is right I am challanging you on that. Show some proof. If it was too little force then why the hell did Baghdad fall so quickly? And there is nothing little about the force they have in there.

**Barley** · October 28, 2003, 19:50

I hope you realise the long haul means 25, maybe 50 years.

**Kuciwalker** · October 28, 2003, 19:52

Not necessarily.

Oh, and Fez, he meant too little force for the occupation, not to defeat the Iraqis.

**Imran Siddiqui** · October 28, 2003, 19:53

Whatya mean "we," College Boy?

I mean the US

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I don't give two ****s about what you do.

**uh Clem** · October 28, 2003, 19:55

You're president of your local chapter of Future Chickenhawks of America, I take it?

**Imran Siddiqui** · October 28, 2003, 19:57

No, I'm approaching it from an intelligent perspective, realizing that Eurocoms socialist scum won't help, unlike you

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**Dr Strangelove** · October 28, 2003, 20:05

I doubt it will take 25 years. We will try "Iraqi-isation" of the effort and hopefully have a semblance of an Iraqi government to dump this on by sometime next year. I would suggest that if there are any old Iraqi heavy weapons, tanks and planes left that they should be strategically left in southern iraq comfortably in the grasp of the Shiites. The Sunni people of Iraq, who are amking the lion's share of the trouble, should be made to undertstand that if they don't behave the people whom they oppressed for more than thirty years will be left with the means to get medieval on their buttocks.

**Imran Siddiqui** · October 28, 2003, 20:07

We will try "Iraqi-isation" of the effort and hopefully have a semblance of an Iraqi government to dump this on by sometime next year

I hope not. The best situation for Iraq (maybe not for other things) is if we stay there and help out the new government... gently guiding it along.

**MOBIUS** · October 28, 2003, 20:16

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
[gently guiding it along.

Since when did you decide to be a stand up comic?

**Imran Siddiqui** · October 28, 2003, 20:23

**MichaeltheGreat** · October 28, 2003, 20:30

Originally posted by MOBIUS

Since when did you decide to be a stand up comic?

I assume he means with something like these:

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**MOBIUS** · October 28, 2003, 20:33

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Get with the programme Imran, MtG knows what I mean...

**MichaeltheGreat** · October 28, 2003, 20:37

My 11-EEE Corcorans have proved useful in the administration of "gentle guidance" on occasion. I don't see us there much later than early 2005, though. In the meantime, another hundred thousand "guidance counselors" would be useful. Take the ****ing Sunni triangle apart to the last brick, one town at a time, and clear out all the weapons caches, *******s, hiding places, etc.

**MOBIUS** · October 28, 2003, 20:42

That's sacrilege MtG!

You and I both know that there are more than enough troops already in Iraq to do the job, the US govt says so - hell I even got shouted out by some of the chickenhawks on this forum for even suggesting we should increase the "guidance counselor" quota a few months back...

That learned me!

**Whaleboy** · October 28, 2003, 20:48

The USA's mess, they gotta clear it up. They gotta stay in there and leave a viable state, otherwise this whole thing will just repeat over and over again. The question is one of political endurance, not to mention money. Like I said months ago, the strongest justification for the Iraq war, and the only one I cannot refute is the economic argument, namely, oil.

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