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  • Why I think a communist revolution is a pipe dream in United States.

    1) Nearly half of the citizenry that are eligible to vote are apolitical/apathetic. There is no way that commies can mobilize enough supporters for an electoral revolution.

    2) Believe it or not, religion still seems to have value to varying extents, for a significant number of Americans -- be they Christian, Jewish, Muslim, or whatever. Until you can convince them that your communist revolution plans will not seek to discourage religious freedom, you ain't getting anywhere with these people. Even those who are not actively religious, such as myself, still have latent religious values even if we have not openly expressed those latent religious values.

    3) Most of the working class, along with the middle class, like the idea of earning what they own -- even if this means that their hard work has resulted in a higher level of material comfort for themselves in contrast to others in their society. They also place market value on what skills individuals have -- no one likes the idea of being paid the same as someone much lower down the economic ladder, yet working much harder than that person.

    4) Moderate liberals, such as myself, continue to believe that we can reform -- not revolutionize -- our nation/society in ways that can improve the quality of life for a greater number of our citizens.

    5) The mass media dominates our society's channels of information and political discourse for good or ill. Commies will have to find some niche in channeling information to the people, and because you won't be able to do this through the main news media with supportive slant, you will have to rely on the Internet for the most part.

    I'm sure there's a couple of other reasons why a communist revolution in the United States is nothing but a pipe dream, but these are the ones I can think of.
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    • #3
      Yep, an anarchist revolution is clearly much more likely.
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      • #4
        There is one simple reason why communist revolution in the US is a pipe dreeam and will remain so:
        Despite the terrible inequalities, the bulk of the population is middle class, or installed low class. As such, the huge majority of the population has something to lose in a revolution. We are far from Marx when he said the workers had nothing to lose but their chains.

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        • #5
          I've noticed that MrFun has really been interested in trolling us commies lately.

          Something on your mind, Fun?
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          • #6
            It's PC to troll commies.
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            • #7
              Jealousy, obviously.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                I've noticed that MrFun has really been interested in trolling us commies lately.

                Something on your mind, Fun?
                I'm just expressing my opinions and thoughts -- express your arguments.

                That's how it's suppose to work.
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                • #9
                  And this month's prize for stating the obvious goes to.... Mr Fun!
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ramo
                    Yep, an anarchist revolution is clearly much more likely.
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                    • #11
                      Communism hasn't had a chance in the U.S. since FDR instituted the New Deal.

                      The only thing that might revive its hopes is the continued imposition of supply-side economics. This warped policy syphons off the wealth of the nation and gives it to those least in need. As more and more people lose hope, more and more will begin the pondering the advantages of throat slitting.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
                        And this month's prize for stating the obvious goes to.... Mr Fun!
                        But I want to see how Chegitz and others argue against the "obvious."
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                        • #13
                          damn -- didn't mean to intimidate
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                          • #14
                            of course Mr. Fun is absolutely right, as I thought most modern marxists would agree... they always say that america avoided revolution by making some concessions (New Deal) while simultaneously inundating the masses with materialism and commercialism. i swore you said something to that effect many times, chegitz... now you disagree with mr. fun who is re-stating what you said a dozen times? interesting...
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                            • #15
                              Um...Well, I at least can't because I agree with you
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