How do you deal with death?

[st_swithin]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Something like suicide, of a physically healthy person, pisses me off.

Yeah, but what if that person is mentally unhealthy?

I can honestly tell you that if you fvck it up once, you'll have a really hard time trying again. Maybe that's what keeps you alive afterwards.

[Pekka]

Sloww, exactly it'll make it worse.

It also bugs me, that I'm thinking of this so much. I mean, he is in good health. For his age? Like a superman. Little over 60... but physical condition is of a 40 year old who's in shape. Few years ago people took him for a 40 year old.. head full of hair, still has his muscles showing and not fat. But after the divorce some time ago, it seemed like he started ageing faster.. you can see it in the eyes so clearly.. the age thing. So you know, even when there's the excellent physical health.. you never know when something starts to mailfunction.. heart can let down at any moment anyway. So I think about it a lot and that bugs me even more. Am I subconsciously preparing for the moment? You can't really be ready for it anyway.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Something like suicide, of a physically healthy person, pisses me off.

I'm a commie pondering suicide. How come you don't encourage me ?!

[Chemical Ollie]

My father got the message he had an incurable cancer when I was 19. He lived for 3 more years until it eventually spread to the skeleton and ate him from within. I was extremely sad several times during his 3-year struggle, but when he finally died, I had already prepared for it so much that I was not crying except for the actual funeral.

Experiencing the death of your parents is a normal but still painful thing. Still something everone has to go through sooner or later. But the opposite would be even worse. Just image the pain of your children dying before you do. I haven't felt that pain, and I hope I never will.

[st_swithin]

Jack of Clubs.

[Pekka]

Chem, Yes that would be worse. That's not natural, or right to see your kids go.
I've been lucky enough to not been forced to watch someone very close to be very sick and go slowly. I can't think of any words to say anything to that, except that it must be bad.

I guess the WORST part for me is knowing, that when he goes, he'll go alone or with me. If he gets some kind of stroke or what ever in home, there will be no one to call the ambulance. Or if he gets to hospital and I'm not there, he'll be completely alone. That bugs me the most.

[SlowwHand]

Originally posted by st_swithin


Yeah, but what if that person is mentally unhealthy?

I think it goes without saying that anyone who commits suicide is having mental health issues.

[Stefu]

Hacksaw and refridgerator.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by Pekka
Chemical Ollie, that's pretty funny, even if it's.. you know, not funny... I guess she has her facts straight!

It's strange you know.. I just seem to feel that when I bury my old man, it will be the worst moment of my life and I don't know if I can take it very well. I'm emotinally handicapped . I guess they should lock the booze and guns, and take away the car keyes for at least few months! But I have no problems of thinkign that my son will bury me (if have a son that is). That's cool. But when it's my turn and duty? Oh hell...

It was an extremely mature reply coming from a kid. My oldest daughter has always been way ahead in her development.

Burying your old man is one of the goals of your life. If you fail to accomplish that, you have failed your mission. He should not have to bury you. (Also see my post above)

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Chemical Ollie
Experiencing the death of your parents is a normal but still painful thing. Still something everone has to go through sooner or later. But the opposite would be even worse. Just image the pain of your children dying before you do. I haven't felt that pain, and I hope I never will.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by SlowwHand


I think it goes without saying that anyone who commits suicide is having mental health issues.

I see it as more of a spiritual issue.

I've been lucky enough to not been forced to watch someone very close to be very sick and go slowly. I can't think of any words to say anything to that, except that it must be bad.

The first few times it is, but each time you see someone slowly slipping away you begin to realize the facts, and you no longer weep for them.
Death becomes more like a celebration (no, not because they died ) but because they will live again. And hopefully have a happier, more pure life than before
It's difficult to explain...and I hope i'm explaining it well enough

[Pekka]

Absolutely it is a great duty. That's one of the few things that you won't let someone down, and do it even if you feel sick and miserable, you'll go and do it and try to maintain some level of strength at least for a while.

[Gatekeeper]

Hmm. You pose a very interesting question, Pekka, and one that humanity has thought of since time immemorial.

As for myself, I have faith. My faith is drawn from the newborns who enter this world every day. My faith is drawn from the beauty of a night sky wheeling overhead, millions of stars, planets and galaxies stretching into Eternity. My faith is drawn from the kind acts we do. My faith is renewed by the laughter of children. My faith is found when I exercise outdoors, and become immersed in the ways of nature. All of those things, to me, personify what God, Allah, et al., really are.

So when I die, I want my physical remains cremated. My soul will have other duties to attend to.

Gatekeeper

[Pekka]

That's the other thing I'm a bit worried.. he's a good man and has shown it with his actions. But he had a strict religious home, very strict, and he's drawn away from religion for obvious reasons. And the ex-wife who left him (my mom) is a pastor, and did it with the most cold way. So you I'm worried that he's kind of angry about that, and I know he is so I'm not sure if he wants to accept being saved because he's super stubborn. My hope is with mercifull God that will take him even if he kind of grabbed every stone and door knob in his way . Because he's a good, honest and hardworking man. But I'm still bit worried about that one.

[Pekka]

Anyway, this thread isn't supposed to be this grim. I just wanted to make this, because I think about this too often and get a lump in my throat. But I guess it's just realizing this that makes me think about it and it'll get a lot easier when time goes by and I accept it before it happens. And may there be many many years ahead.

On the positive note, first cover of snow just came here.. it's beautiful .