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  • #46
    Bali isn't part of the West.
    Oerdin is just a confused old man. Like Ming and RAH.
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    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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    • #47
      considering it took them like 5 years to plan 9/11, this means nothing.

      It means we have to wait another 3 years to see if we had any effect.

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      • #48
        An unintended result, the US has a better idea who its friends aren't. France is the greatest disappointment. Though helping in Afghanistan, when the real heavy moving was needed they were pushing instead of pulling. The eastern europeans are the great astonishing over achievers, lovers of freedom, they have little to spare but gave their all.

        As for the intended result, the US is safer, many bad guys are fertilizer. I like that because I remember Sept 11.

        On a personal note, my father-in-law was carrying a bottle of French wine to the check out tonight, but thank God I stopped him in time.



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        • #49
          USA and Coalition have killed and captured most of those cowardly ****ers. Still many more to kill but rest assured they will all die

          Even those wimpy ass Al Queda wannabe Abu Sayeff morons losing out

          There is no 70 virgins in heaven

          Just you and a muthur****ing 6 feet of sand over your punk ass heads

          USA will never forget what you cowards did to us. Until you are all dead.

          USA!

          UK!

          Coalition!
          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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          • #50
            *aneeshm sighs and shakes his head resignedly


            I am saddened by the lack of awareness of a terrorists' biggest weapon among the same people waging a "War on Terror" . Their weapons are not bombs or an ideology , it's the element of surprise . Their aim is to make a society become paranoid , and subvert it's ideals , and to open it to blackmail . They cannot achieve this by consistent attacks . They can achieve this by organising a major strike , when wait until their prey becomes complacent . As soon as complacency and rational analysis of the situation (by the people) starts to make an appearance , they again do something like this .

            Terrorism has failed to have such an impack on India because the society is resigned to terrorism , and resilent enough to overcome it without much fuss , as the more you react , the more reactive you become , and the more the initiative lies with the terrorists .

            Most here do not realize thet the voilent reaction of the US , the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq are actually liked by the terrorists . You , I am sorry to say , are playing into their hands . This is their objective . When the war on terror began , you had the sympathy of the world , and may more allies than you have now . Now , all you have is the support of your allies .

            When you become complacent , there will be another event . Trust me .

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            • #51
              I'd rather the coalition try to make the world a safer place for its citizens rather than sit back and carelessley enjoy the sympathy of two-faced nations.
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              • #52
                "I'd rather the coalition try to make the world a safer place for its citizens rather than sit back and carelessley enjoy the sympathy of two-faced nations."

                Yea

                Saw a bumper sticker a couple weeks ago...

                " Too close for missiles, switching to cannons"

                Mood of a nation. Get down in the mud with the bastards, and see who comes up. Even better, see which friends can stand getting a bit dirty... and who is too pretty for a brawl.
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                • #53
                  Re: What Has The Amercian-led War On Terror Achieved?

                  Originally posted by Park Avenue
                  Well there's certainly been no major terrorist attack in the West since September 11th 2001.

                  Congratulations. That is a great achievement.
                  Lets check that War on Terrorism tote-board!:

                  Terrorist attacks on US during the two-year war on terrorism: 0
                  Terrorist attacks on US during the seven years before the war on terrorism: 0

                  I see a re-elction slogan here: "Bush. He's doing stuff; you just can't tell."

                  Meanwhile, in the rest of the West, ETA activity does indeed seem to be down. Must be all that Basque profiling we're doing.
                  "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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                  • #54
                    What's your point Rufus? Are you like Chegitz and disappointed another terrorist attack hasn't happened to prove you right?

                    That's all you seem to care about. I'm just glad we haven't lost another 2900 Americans.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Caligastia
                      I don't really consider Bali to be part of "the West".
                      The original claim was that there had been no major terror attacks since 9/11. You added on the part about it having to occur in the west expost facto.
                      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by SlowwHand
                        They froze the job the same day I told you I was going to work.
                        ****ing *******s.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Park Avenue
                          What's your point Rufus? Are you like Chegitz and disappointed another terrorist attack hasn't happened to prove you right?

                          That's all you seem to care about. I'm just glad we haven't lost another 2900 Americans.
                          My point is that the absence of a terrorist attack during Bush's war on terror isn't proof that the Bush administration has accomplished anything, since there were long periods without terrorist attacks before they even took office. Or, as you should be learning in school: correlation is not causation.
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                          • #58
                            There is the little fact that several 9/11 style terror attacks where spoiled. Anyone remember the plan to put posion gas in the London subway? Or the plan to fly a plane into the Vatican? Or the plane to sink ships in the straits of Gibraltar?
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                            • #59
                              Rufus:
                              Oerdin is right in the meaning that Al Qaeda's structure has been completely disrupted (destroyed for a good part) by the war on terror, and their plans for a massive attack could not be executed in a timely manner as a result.

                              I don't think one should gloat the results on the war on terror, because it has achieved nothing long-term. But there are indeed some short-term results one should not simply ignore.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Spiffor
                                Rufus:
                                Oerdin is right in the meaning that Al Qaeda's structure has been completely disrupted (destroyed for a good part) by the war on terror, and their plans for a massive attack could not be executed in a timely manner as a result.

                                I don't think one should gloat the results on the war on terror, because it has achieved nothing long-term. But there are indeed some short-term results one should not simply ignore.
                                The Bush administration's policies have certainly made it unlikely that A-Qaeda will execute a massive terrorist attack on US soil anytime soon. The problem is, that's not their M.O. to begin with; they far prefer hitting Western targets in the non-Western world, and that has continued unabated.
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