Doctors are idiots

[Ted Striker]

why is it so hard to get an MRI?

docs are always resistant to doing it for some reason....

[TCO]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
why is it so hard to get an MRI?

docs are always resistant to doing it for some reason....

probably $. But it seems to make a lot of sense to me. I mean get a frigging picture. And when it does come in they don't even look at it that close. I want those images scoured. My best viewing of my shoulder MRI was by a PT, not a doc. I mean, I guess the radiologist did an ok job and he wrote up a report. But the doc didn't even read the radiologists report until I was in the room and he scanned it and missed parts of it. Nor did he go look at the images to see how they matched what was written.

I am very pro-MRI.

I suspect another problem may be that the docs don't actually understand the anatomy. I mean that stuff is complex. There are aspects of the anatomy of the shoulder that weren't understood until a few years ago. Which is mind-boggling to me. I mean, heck, aren't they supposed to chop up corpses? Don't they look at what they are cutting on when doing surgery?

[Ted Striker]

so is your shoulder still busted up?

[TCO]

yeah. That is another thing.

But right now, I'm just working on the knee. If I get that back so that I can run and cycle, that will do a lot. Still need to get shoulder fixed too.

Of course, the one thing I could do is lose 40 pounds. I could do that regardless of being able to exercise. Just need some discipline.

[Makeo]

yeah lose some weight ya fat bastard. its not the doctors fault if your legs won't support your weight.

[Ted Striker]

YOU need to lose 40 pounds? you looked real in shape when i saw you

but i guess that makes sense if you have knee problems

well, if your shoulder has soft tissue damage, i had my shoudler CURED through a technique called Active Release Technique

It's all soft tissue manipulation, no surgery worked wonders. fixed my shoulder after 4 years of being damaged. it is even better than the shoulder that i never injured. lots of bodybuilders get it done

they might be able to do something for your knee

give it a shot at least

http://www.activerelease.com/

[TCO]

maybe so...they ought to diagnose THAT then. How is your back?

[TCO]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
YOU need to lose 40 pounds? you looked real in shape when i saw you

but i guess that makes sense if you have knee problems

well, if your shoulder has soft tissue damage, i had my shoudler CURED through a technique called Active Release Technique

It's all soft tissue manipulation, no surgery worked wonders. fixed my shoulder after 4 years of being damaged. it is even better than the shoulder that i never injured. lots of bodybuilders get it done

they might be able to do something for your knee

give it a shot at least

http://www.activerelease.com/

40 is right. I may check out the ART, but first I want to do some research in anatomy.

[Makeo]

my back is pretty good. in the last two seasons i've done both ankles and both knees so haven't got much skiing in.
my plan is to take it easy this year.

[Dr Strangelove]

First of all, of course you have a bursa. I have a bursa, Ming has a bursa, my eight year old boy has a bursa, even my dog has a bursa. A bursa is a lubricant fille sac situated between a joint and adjacent tendons. It's function is to reduce the friction of the mobile tendons where they pass over bones. What you're probably referring to is bursitis, a condition in which a bursa becomes inflamed.

It's not clear to me from your post exactly what happened. What I think you've said is that you though, or were told, that you had bursitis, but when you went to an orthopedist he did an arthroscopy and discovered that you had a "plica", which is a sort of tissue projecting into the joint often interfering with motion in the joint. If that is the case, then arthroscopy was just the right thing for you, since using the arthroscope a skilled surgeon can insert an instrument into the joint and clip away the aberrant tissue alleviating the problem. An MRI would supply a diagnosis, but surgery might still have been necessary. Some orthopedists prefer arthroscopy because they often can alleviate the problem whike making the diagnosis.

[TCO]

Wow. Didn't know that. I think if I'd had my shoulders more in shape, I might not have gotten hurt. I think I also needed to improve my skiing. I was skiing those really fast GS style turns when I got hurt (wasn't turning right then but you know what I mean). I don't think I did it on purpose, but I think unconsciously I was emulating how you ski a blue-black. I guess I figure I can go that fast cause there are no moguls and I feel in control. But I wasn't really. Sort of a subtle thing. When I'm on the moguls, I KNOW I'm not in control. LOL

Too bad, you didn't get to play pool with Paula at Salt Creek. We played on the last day that we were there and she kicked butt. You guys would be a strong team.

[TCO]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
First of all, of course you have a bursa. I have a bursa, Ming has a bursa, my eight year old boy has a bursa, even my dog has a bursa. A bursa is a lubricant fille sac situated between a joint and adjacent tendons. It's function is to reduce the friction of the mobile tendons where they pass over bones. What you're probably referring to is bursitis, a condition in which a bursa becomes inflamed.

It's not clear to me from your post exactly what happened. What I think you've said is that you though, or were told, that you had bursitis, but when you went to an orthopedist he did an arthroscopy and discovered that you had a "plica", which is a sort of tissue projecting into the joint often interfering with motion in the joint. If that is the case, then arthroscopy was just the right thing for you, since using the arthroscope a skilled surgeon can insert an instrument into the joint and clip away the aberrant tissue alleviating the problem. An MRI would supply a diagnosis, but surgery might still have been necessary. Some orthopedists prefer arthroscopy because they often can alleviate the problem whike making the diagnosis.

Typical physician. No attention to detail. The doc had the surgery on HIMSELF. And since he misdiagnosed himself, he figures, I must be the same as him. And he does NOT want to do surgery on me. He wants to avoid it, since he feels that he did an incorrect procedure on himself. (had it done actually, he did not cut on himself.)

And yeah, I know I have a bursa. But that is how he referred to the condition. From now on, I am coming in with a complete description of the anatomy (referring often to the Medline dictionary to understand stuff) so that I can hope to follow and correct these guys. Umm and yes, I know that is not enough. I really need to have a course and do dissection and all that, but that will do me for a start.

[Ted Striker]

hey hey doc strangelove is a good guy though he is trying to help player

[TCO]

sorry. Back to my article. I have to look up a word about every third or fourth word, but I am pushing through.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by TCO
They aren't that good, Sloww. The guy I saw in Richmond told me, "You probably think you have a 'bursa', but it is most likely a 'plica'. I had arthrospic surgery on my knee cause I thought it was a bursa and it turned out to be a plica."

The problem is that this statement doesn't make sense. Arthroscopy isn't a treatment for simple bursitis, but it is for a "plica." Could you have gotten what he said backwards? Arthroscopy may be indicated when bursitis doesn't respond to the usual conservative treatment, raising the possibility that the bursitis might be secondary to a structural defect like a torn ACL, a torn meniscus or a "plica."