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  • #46
    Originally posted by lord of the mark
    BBC

    'Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat has condemned "this ugly crime targeting American observers as they were on a mission for security and peace".
    You see Kropotkin, even Arafat knows that Americans are more important than Isreali women and children.
    Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Ned
      I wonder whether Arafat will allow the FBI free reign to find out who really is behind this? If he says no, we will know who is responsible, will we not?
      Yeah, in your dreams neddie-boy!

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      • #48
        Originally posted by DanielXY
        *Police knocks on door*
        "Yeah?"
        "Can we search your house?"
        "Hell no!"
        "See! I told you he was behind it!"

        If a murder takes place in your house, and you insist the house not be searched, youd better have a damned good reason.
        "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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        • #49
          Strange. I'm getting the feeling that you think I was being sarcastic.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Sprayber


            You see Kropotkin, even Arafat knows that Americans are more important than Isreali women and children.
            to pursue someone elses metaphor - its one thing when the local thug kills a local innocent - its quite another when the local thug kills a cop. (not to imply that americans are global cops or whatver - just stating a realistic fact about power)
            "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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            • #51
              Whats even more strange is that you think I was.
              Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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              • #52
                Originally posted by lord of the mark


                If a murder takes place in your house, and you insist the house not be searched, youd better have a damned good reason.
                Sovereignty is a fairly good one. The US certainly insists on it.
                When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                  Why does it seem more sensible when MtG says it?
                  Because I'm not a commie.
                  When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


                    Sovereignty is a fairly good one. The US certainly insists on it.
                    1. the PA is not sovereign. One of the reasons given for it not yet having sovereignty, is its alleged support for terrorism. Refusing a US request to allow FBI investigators would hardly endear the US toward the notion of Pal sovereignty

                    2. Lets take PA sovereignty as given. Very well. Allow Arafat the sovereign right to deny the US access for investigation. The US may then conclude that Arafat supported the attack. Does his soverienty prevent us from assuming that? The US may then allow Israel the sovereign right to respond to attacks on its territory, and to apply the Bush doctrine to Palestine. The Europeans may even be convinced that Arafat is responsible, and cease diplomatic and financial support. If I were Arafat, I would take that seriously.
                    "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
                      Sovereignty is a fairly good one. The US certainly insists on it.
                      How do you leap to the conclusion that applies in this case?
                      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
                        So in your view, Reagan was a gutless pansy?
                        No, of course not. I am just saying that bombing Americans and thinking it will deter a response won't work against this President because Bush has taken an agressive stance to fight terrorism no matter what.
                        'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
                        G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by The diplomat


                          No, of course not. I am just saying that bombing Americans and thinking it will deter a response won't work against this President because Bush has taken an agressive stance to fight terrorism no matter what.

                          This event will be ignored or paid attention to according to what kind of spin is placed on it. It's not attacking Bush to point that out. I happen to like a lot of his policies regarding foreign affairs, but I'm not taken in enough to say that this will automatically mean something in the longterm context. In my opinion Reagan was right to withdraw troops from Lebanon. Also in my opinion, it would be advisable not to get militarly involved in any venture inside the West Bank or Gaza.
                          Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                          • #58
                            Also in my opinion, it would be advisable not to get militarly involved in any venture inside the West Bank or Gaza.
                            Maybe that would be a great idea! If the palestinians could get a few months experience with american GIs destroying houses and killing people more or less in random, the IDF would be much more appreciated.
                            Last edited by Kropotkin; October 15, 2003, 16:49.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Kropotkin

                              Maybe that woul be a great idea! If the palestinians could get a few months experience with american GIs destroying houses and killing people more or less in random, the IDF would be much more appreciated.

                              If we do go in there it will be far more than simple random houses being destroyed.
                              Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                              • #60
                                Along the lines of 'we had to destroy the village in order to save it'- a good old tradition.

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