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The Apolyton quote generator gave me this after my last post:
"A fanatic is someone who won't change their mind and won't change the subject." - Winston Churchill.
You rock, Winston!
-Arrian
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The Apolyton quote generator gave me this after my last post:
"A fanatic is someone who won't change their mind and won't change the subject." - Winston Churchill.
You rock, Winston!
-Arriangrog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!
The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood. -
Have to give him some credit. He gets buried on every point he tries to make. It just bounces off of him and he continues on like the enegizer Bunny.It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
RIP Tony Bogey & Baron OComment
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leave the poor kid alone.
One day he will have grown up, prolly be an insurance sales men with a mortgage and all the rest of it.
'I was not radical when young, for fear of being conservative when old.'
can't remember who said iteimi men anthropos pollon logon, mikras de sophiasComment
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Kid ain't that young though.
People generally become more and more conservative the less dependent they become on the government.Comment
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Life as a game show...
Bob Barker: "If that's the case, he can collect his valuable parting gifts as we introduce the next contestant... Johnny?"Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Hit the buzzer, John... Kid has got the wrong answer again
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Johnny Olson: "DuncanK! DuncanK, come on down! You are the new contestant on 'The Price is Immoral!' "[applause]Comment
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thats true, i never really thought of it that wayOriginally posted by Japher
People generally become more and more conservative the less dependent they become on the government.eimi men anthropos pollon logon, mikras de sophiasComment
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More like, "Now that I have mine, I don't want to give it to anybody else."
It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
RIP Tony Bogey & Baron OComment
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That's because giving it to them is helping to keep you from getting it.It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
RIP Tony Bogey & Baron OComment
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'i worked hard for this, and now you wanna take it away?'eimi men anthropos pollon logon, mikras de sophiasComment
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It's also helping to keep them from getting it too. Unfortunatly, they don't see that.Comment
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Wonderful refutation, Kid.Originally posted by Kidicious
This time you put the super caps at the bottom of your post, but I still didn't read it.Comment
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yes, very much in the vain of:Originally posted by skywalker
Wonderful refutation, Kid.
You work harder then me and get paid more money, thats not fair'eimi men anthropos pollon logon, mikras de sophiasComment
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And it is.You seem to be implying that the fact that you don't own the tool is unfair in some way.
Sure, but I happen to think that force can be wrong regardless of who initiates it.I'm not talking about freedom from the state. I'm talking about freedom from coercion/freedom from the initiation of force against yourself.
If by "right," you mean state sanction, freedom means both.So you think freedom means the financial ability to do/buy things, rather than the right to do/buy things?
No. Lack of money can be even more of a constraint (i.e. lack of freedom) than a law. For instance, I smoked up without much worry of being imprisoned this weekend, but for instance if I wanted to get a car, it'd be much, much more difficult.Sorry, but that doesn't make sense. One can have the financial ability to do/buy things, but if the state says "no", then the financial ability is meaningless, and certainly not an example of freedom.
On the other side of the coin, though, you can be free to do something without being able to afford to do that thing. You do see the difference, right?
But that isn't relevant as I was addressing Vel's argument, not something that didn't exist in his post.Regardless, the morality of coercion is always a valid point, whether it is addressed or not. Put another way, Vel's scenario is moral for reasons that he didn't state, while your scenario is immoral for reasons you didn't state.
Why should the amount of money spent on education be proportion to the wage a worker recieves?So a doctor shouldn't make, say, 10 times as much money as a janitor? I bet the doctor spent 10 times as much time and money on his education, though.."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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I don't want your elimination. I just want to see democracy in your work-place.Unfortunately, Ramo, I am unable to find anything in these definitions that compels capitalists and workers to be separate "classes." As one who both has put his own money and effort (were you working at 12:30 last night, after being in the office for 10 hours that day?) in businesses that I own significant chunks of equity, your and Kids assertion that I am not a capitalist kinda hurts me - what do I have to do to get you to wish for my elimination based upon my work title? Just stop working? But I enjoy it...
Quiet you.*points to Ramo's avatar*
"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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