Pope says condoms are no good against HIV

[Dr Strangelove]

Who cares about ideal conditions? Field conditions are the only ones that count.

[Shi Huangdi]

1. This seems to be just a cardinal, not the pope.

2. Even if it was the Pope, it would still have no bearing. Church teaching is only doctrine when it comes to matters of faith and morals, the Church has no authority to speak on sciences. The Church's teachings do not change at all because of the Cardinal's statement.

[St Leo]

Crazy Christians o_0

[Shi Huangdi]

The programme includes a Catholic nun advising her HIV-infected choir master not to use condoms with his wife because "the virus can pass through".

This is bad Catholic doctrine. Contraceptive devices are licit if the intent in using them is not to prevent conception, but rather some acceptable end. Thus, "the pill" may be taken by a woman to regulate her period, I am sure in the instance describe above a condom would be ok.

[TCO]

Doc is that stastic for butt sex or for vaginal intercourse? I've heard the butt sex rips things up a lot more. never done it though.

[MrFun]

This is just another piece of evidence that the Pope's dinosaur age has caused him to become more senile.

[Sava]

what a dope

[Jack_www]

Re: Pope says condoms are no good against HIV

Originally posted by Gangerolf

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3176982.stm

Catholisism is so backwards why don't they merge with islam or something. /end troll

If the pope gets the nobel peace prize I'll vomit

discuss

Actually this is true for some condoms. Condoms not made out of latex stop sprem but dont stop the virus from going through. Also I think condoms in general have a 90% or higher rate were they do stop virus from going through, but sometimes they dont work for various reasons. I think this is more a twisting of the truth then all out lie. Catholisism though has a long history of lieing to people. Also you have to consider that the pope is not doing so well and I think his mind is not there.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Wittlich
Well, the HIV epidemic is just more fuel that the Roman Catholic church uses to fuel the belief of: "be fruitful and multiply" - It doesn't matter that there is already too many people in this world to feed properly...

there is far more food right now than people

the problem lies with capitalism and distribution, not the ammount of food

Jon Miller

[St Leo]

Re: Re: Pope says condoms are no good against HIV

Originally posted by Jack_www
but sometimes they dont work for various reasons.

Such as having condom-less genital contact and only putting one on when anticipating ejaculation. That also fails to prevent pregnancy.

Like, duh.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by TCO
Doc is that stastic for butt sex or for vaginal intercourse? I've heard the butt sex rips things up a lot more. never done it though.

The statistic is compiled from a number of studies from around the world, so it overall applies to both.

I don't care what anyone says. If I have a patient whom I know has HIV I don't tell him "Here, have a condom and go enjoy yourself."

[Dauphin]

Just want to say a joke that indicates what I'm thinking:

A physicist, mathematician and engineer are on a train travelling through a beautiful English countryside. On the hill, the see a lone black sheep.

"Look!", says the engineer, "there are black sheep in this country."

"No," says the physicist. "The best you can say is that there is ONE black sheep in this country."

"No," says the mathematician. "The best you can say is that there is ONE sheep that is black on ONE side in this country."

[Kirnwaffen]

I don't really have a problem with anyone saying that people with HIV shouldn't be having sex. Common sense. I do have a problem with the church's general stance on protected sex. It's really irresponsible to tell people they should not protect themselves, regardless of the circumstances surrounding their intercourse, especially when you have so much sway in countries where it's a real problem.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Article:

In an interview, one of the Vatican's most senior cardinals Alfonso Lopez Trujillo suggested HIV could even pass through condoms.

Title:

Pope says condoms are no good against HIV

[MrFun]

Imran wants a cookie for pointing out the inconsistency between the thread title and the article.