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Re: Re: Re: Re: Chinese to Launch Manned Spaceflight Next Week
No, but I think it's great that another country is willing to mount a space program which will no doubt lead to co-operation between it and other countries already in space and which will help spur greater human achievements in space.Originally posted by skywalker
Do you really think that this spaceflight is going to do anything helpful towards democracy (or really, anything helpful for the Chinese people at all?)
Here's hoping the Indians are next.
I'm known for knocking the US, but I will never knock them for their space program which for me, and many other people, represents the US at its best.
I've always hoped that there would be a manned mission to Mars in my lifetime. If you grew up in the 70s like I did, then you would realise the peculiar hold that space exploration has on people of our generation and the one before.Only feebs vote.Comment
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Drake what subject do you teach and to what age?
And 96th is not rock bottom. There are 188 nations in the world, so China is about in the middle. But 50 years ago they were so far back in standard of living and technology that it's not even funny. Now, they are ahead of a lot of the world. I'd say they are doing pretty well."The first man who, having fenced off a plot of land, thought of saying, 'This is mine' and found people simple enough to believe him was the real founder of civil society. How many crimes, wars, murders, how many miseries and horrors might the human race had been spared by the one who, upon pulling up the stakes or filling in the ditch, had shouted to his fellow men: 'Beware of listening to this imposter; you are lost if you forget the fruits of the earth belong to all and that the earth belongs to no one." - Jean-Jacques RousseauComment
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Again, how is it helpful?Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
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Drake what subject do you teach and to what age?
That's a rather random question...
English language to high-school students.KH FOR OWNER!
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Hopefully This will put a fire under NASA's ass.
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Outer space is a good place to manufacture exotic materials.Originally posted by DanS
That's a real shame. There are lots of Chinese expats who are on the forefront of materials science. The Chinese government should find a way to bring them home and do something insanely great with them.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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What year are you living in?Originally posted by Lonestar
Hopefully This will put a fire under NASA's ass.
[LBJ] I, for one, will not go to bed by light of a communist moon![/LBJ]
As soon as they prove themselves competent you can bet that the Chinese will want to help out with the ISS and other collaborative projects.
Do you remember the Apollo-Soyuz mission? I think that shows that the joy of human endeavour transcends political differences.Only feebs vote.Comment
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Morale boosts tend to make people happyOriginally posted by skywalker
Again, how is it helpful?
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Maybe so. I am not smart enough in the field to judge. But suffice it to say that these missions have not been put forward as benefitting materials science.Outer space is a good place to manufacture exotic materials.
I wish China success in this endeavor. But I think this is not a good allocation of so many resources. I thought maybe China would learn from the US federal government experience in this regard. In the height of the push toward the moon, we spent over 1% of our economy on human space flight per year. Truly staggering sums.
In today's terms that would represent about $20 billion per annum for China and $100 billion for the US. $20 billion is the amount of all China's current R&D put together (both public and private) and about half its defense budget. We stopped spending so much after we landed on the moon because the science wasn't worth the cost after the propaganda value had been exhausted. We now spend about $5 billion per annum on manned space flight.
It takes a truly huge expenditure by the government to do this type of thing and the science payback is minimal. Consider yourself warned.Last edited by DanS; October 12, 2003, 00:03.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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1958, isn't everyone?Originally posted by Agathon
What year are you living in?
Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.Comment
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This is one of the times I'm glad I'm not President. China is going to try to milk this for all the propaganda value they can get and I don't think I'd be able to restrain myself from making fun of them if I were the Pres. Holding a press conference to "welcome China to 1958" would be great fun, but the resulting international incident might not be so funny.
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Bush is going to be in Asia during the launch, IIRC.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Bush is going to be in Asia during the launch, IIRC.
Where at? It'd be kind of fun to meet my first American president in Japan, although I doubt he'll be doing much meeting and greeting while overseas.KH FOR OWNER!
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Bush will land in Japan on the 17th. He's staying two days.
I guess the launch window is the Oct. 15 - 17.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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