Canadian Politics: Tories getting thumped in Ontario

[Agathon]

Fair enough, but Day is well below the apes on the evolutionary chain.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Asher

Since when was Canada democracy?

By all means, change to proportional representation. This will mean that the NDP gain a massive amount of seats and that the Tories will be finished as an electable political party.

Think of all those commies, greens and legalise pot MPs too.

[Asher]

Stockwell Day got in trouble by writing a letter to a newspaper condemning a lawyer for defending a pedophile. He was sued for about a million dollars. Legally, the provincial government was supposed to pay for it as Day was a serving MLA. But Klein told Day no, and forced Day to take out a second mortage on his house to pay for it.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Agathon
By all means, change to proportional representation. This will mean that the NDP gain a massive amount of seats and that the Tories will be finished as an electable political party.

Think of all those commies, greens and legalise pot MPs too.

Proportional Representation still isn't a democracy.

[St Leo]

Are you talking about Direct Democracy, Asher?

[Asher]

The only true democracy, IMO. Everything else is a wannabe.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Asher

Proportional Representation still isn't a democracy.

It's the closest workable alternative to every person voting on every single issue. It also results in higher voter turnout since every vote matters. And most importantly, it prevents a conservative minority from gaining disproportionate political representation.

What's not to like?

[St Leo]

Originally posted by Agathon
Fair enough, but Day is well below the apes on the evolutionary chain.

Wow, your grasp of scientific terminology is astounding.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Asher
The only true democracy, IMO. Everything else is a wannabe.

The problem is that it is massively inefficient. People simply don't have the time to become well informed on every single policy issue. In Athens, where this system was actually in place and worked (for a while at least), the people who voted had slaves to do most of their work for them.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Agathon
It's the closest workable alternative to every person voting on every single issue. It also results in higher voter turnout since every vote matters. And most importantly, it prevents a conservative minority from gaining disproportionate political representation.

What's not to like?

It would increase the CA's presence nationally, last I checked.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by St Leo

Wow, your grasp of scientific terminology is astounding.

I was uncomfortable slipping away from Aristotle's Great Chain of Being, but I suppose it worked this time.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Asher

It would increase the CA's presence nationally, last I checked.

Yep. But if you check the numbers the Liberals and NDP (who are closer to each other ideologically) would still share the majority of votes.

It's a stock political truth that PR means the death of traditional conservative parties. They either change or fade away (NZ's National Party is a wonderful example).

[St Leo]

Grr, NDP is one seat short from official party status.

Oh, well. At least none of the terrifying PC campaign threats promises will be implemented.

[cinch]

Originally posted by Agathon

It's a stock political truth that PR means the death of traditional conservative parties. They either change or fade away (NZ's National Party is a wonderful example).

Well, PR seemed to work for the Nazis...

But I guess they weren't a "Traditional" conservative party, in a sense.

[Asher]

Am I the only one that can't take a post seriously if it has the phrase "political truth" in it?