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    US image drops among Muslims

    Many Muslims resent the US military presence in Iraq
    Hostility towards the US has reached "shocking" levels in the Muslim world, according to a report released in Washington.

    A panel of experts chosen by the Bush administration found that good will towards America had plummeted in the past year, from Jordan to Indonesia.

    It called for more money to be spent on promoting US policies, and made specific recommendations such as recruiting more Arabic-speaking diplomats.

    The BBC's state department correspondent, Jon Leyne, says the findings only confirm earlier reports but are significant in that they were commissioned this time by the US administration.

    One member of the panel, John Zogby, said America's standing in the Muslim and Arab world could not get any worse than it was today.

    The report's authors stressed that they were not addressing US policies per se but their presentation, arguing that the US was often "not even present for the debate" with the Muslim world.

    At the same time, the report, which was compiled by 13 experts including several Arabs and Muslims, warned against adopting propaganda devices.

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    Entitled "Changing Minds, Winning Peace", the report finds that 15% of Indonesians now view the US favourably - down from 61% in 2002.

    In the spring of 2003, only 1% of Jordanians took a favourable view of the US compared with 25% in the summer of 2002.

    The report calls for more investment in "public diplomacy" and it urges the state department to recruit 300 fluent Arabic speakers within two years, and another 300 by 2008.

    Scholarships for Muslims should also be boosted, it adds, and more money put into US radio broadcasts to the Arabic world as well as the translation of educational texts into local languages.

    The report acknowledges that the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians and the situation in Iraq are impeding good relations.

    "Surveys indicate that much of the resentment toward America stems from real conflicts and displeasure with policies, including those involving the Palestinian-Israeli conflict and Iraq," the US report says.
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    Hmm, the war in Iraq doesn't seem to help too much the "War against terror", does it?
    "The only way to avoid being miserable is not to have enough leisure to wonder whether you are happy or not. "
    --George Bernard Shaw
    A fast word about oral contraception. I asked a girl to go to bed with me and she said "no".
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    Of course not, the idea that war in Iraq wouldn't encourage more muslim extremists to turn to terrorism was either naive or deliberate spin.
    Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
    Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
    We've got both kinds

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    • #3
      Hasn't the US image among muslims been dropping ever since the 70s?

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      • #4
        Another question is, if the drop of the US image is limited to the muslim world.

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        • #5
          This isn't really a question, SR. The answer is pretty obvious.
          "The only way to avoid being miserable is not to have enough leisure to wonder whether you are happy or not. "
          --George Bernard Shaw
          A fast word about oral contraception. I asked a girl to go to bed with me and she said "no".
          --Woody Allen

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            • #7
              i don't think "oops" will cut it.
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              • #8
                The more Muslims we piss off, the more terrorists we create...
                The more terrorists we create, the easier it is to find terrorists.

                It's all part of a well-thought-out master plan...
                "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ecthelion
                  Hasn't the US image among muslims been dropping ever since the 70s?
                  It's been so low for so long that no one in the US really cares what the Arabs/muslims think. That's the truth. We expect them to hate us no matter what we do so we might as well do what's in the best interests of the US and it's allies because we will be no worse off because of it.

                  Us policy pissed lots of them off but then again there is also the dictators who try to fixate the people on foreigners so that the people won't look at the great failures the dictator has brought at home. Our policy shifts won't have much effect until the dictators stop trying to externalize domestic problems.
                  Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                  • #10
                    Us policy pissed lots of them off but then again there is also the dictators who try to fixate the people on foreigners so that the people won't look at the great failures the dictator has brought at home.
                    So true. Even Hitler did this.

                    Oops, I just realized, that Däubler-Gmelin said this and some yanks were really pissed at this sentence.

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                    • #11
                      Well, the article says that "the report finds that 15% of Indonesians now view the US favourably - down from 61% in 2002."

                      Now, 61% wasn't that bad. 61-25=36% of the Indonesians started to hate the americans in the last year; that's quite a number of people who didn't have problems with America until now.

                      1% of the jordanians took a favourable view of the US ?! Extrapolating, the whole middle east basically hates you now.
                      "The only way to avoid being miserable is not to have enough leisure to wonder whether you are happy or not. "
                      --George Bernard Shaw
                      A fast word about oral contraception. I asked a girl to go to bed with me and she said "no".
                      --Woody Allen

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                      • #12
                        I wonder if the folks in the anti-immigration movement in Europe are feeling a little jealous now?
                        "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                        • #13
                          They might feel. However, a high standard of living is much more important in the eyes of an emmigrant than world politics.
                          "The only way to avoid being miserable is not to have enough leisure to wonder whether you are happy or not. "
                          --George Bernard Shaw
                          A fast word about oral contraception. I asked a girl to go to bed with me and she said "no".
                          --Woody Allen

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                          • #14
                            Also you have to remember that a large part of this has to do with Iraq. Even if an evil dictator needed over throwing the Arabs don't like it shown that they were to weak & incompetent to do it and they sure don't like a foreigner showing how easy it is to do.
                            Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                            • #15
                              I think the reason of the dramatic image loss in the arab world (and nearly everywhere else too) during and after the Iraq war is not the ease of the victory, but the lack of a casus belli. To oust a dictator is definitely not one, neither is it the suspection of WoMD presence (which is most likely a false claim) without a UNSC mandate. And the claim, that it's just a continuation of GW I is just ridiculous.

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