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  • #16
    Imran

    I can't say Rush is wrong in his assessment, I just haven't paid enough attention to the sports media the past few years to know if McNabb was being hyped. He seemed like one of the top 5-6 QB's in the NFL and I can't say the media has portrayed him otherwise.

    But this comment is classic Rush:

    `All this has become the tempest that it is because I must have been right about something,'' Limbaugh said. ``If I wasn't right, there wouldn't be this cacophony of outrage that has sprung up in the sports writer community.''
    Great logic there Rush. If Rush angers people, it must be because he's right. Nice coat of armor for whatever he says.

    News Flash: Limbaugh has resigned

    Too bad, I didn't even know he was hired and was looking forward to watching. But that's Rush, he just had to interject politics into it...

    Btw, why is McNabb bothered more by Rush's comment about certain people in the sports media than about his ability? It ain't his fault if some media people hype him because of his skin color, and if Rush is wrong, so what?

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    • #17
      monolith -
      What Rush said was racist. Not extremely racist, nor was it very racist, but it was still offensively racist. What a schmuck.
      How so? His comment was about white media people!!!

      There's the irony of this episode - Rush is accused of racism when he was effectively accusing certain people in the sports media of...well...RACISM!

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      • #18
        Rush has resigned from ESPN.
        No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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        • #19
          News Flash: Limbaugh has resigned

          Too bad, I didn't even know he was hired and was looking forward to watching. But that's Rush, he just had to interject politics into it...


          Well, I'm of the opinion that ESPN pushed him to say something controversial. The first two week he wasn't controversial enough, but he still gave ESPN NFL Countdown a 10% increase in ratings. I think ESPN put some pressure to try to get a bigger boost in the ratings.
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • #20
            You could also guess that Rush knew what the response would be. He hasn't exactly been a brilliant commentator, and now he gets to leave after doing his sport person stint, controversy in hand, as opposed to leaving b/c of lack of ability. He looks like even more of a moron to regular folks, but he never cared about them anyway. To his cult following, it can only make him look better, as the "liberal media" and "blacks" have conspired against him to force him to resign.
            I'm consitently stupid- Japher
            I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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            • #21
              It sure wasn't his fans, so I'd say it was the Democrats and liberals.

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              • #22
                I've lost some respect for McNabb and Wesley Clark

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                • #23
                  Though I think the underlying point of Rush's statement, that the media overhypes McNabb is totally correct. His explination of why that happens is probably wrong.
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #24
                    Rush hasn't exactly gone out of his way to mend fences with the black community.
                    I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                    I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                      Though I think the underlying point of Rush's statement, that the media overhypes McNabb is totally correct. His explination of why that happens is probably wrong.
                      Then he should have said, "The media is overhyping McNabb," or "McNabb isn't performing as well as he used to." Instead he said what he said, which comes across as, "The media hypes him because he is black."

                      Which he might still have gotten away with if he 1)had proof, and 2)wasn't Rush Limbaugh.
                      I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                      I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                      • #26
                        Instead he said what he said, which comes across as, "The media hypes him because he is black."


                        Which may be true... Hell, it's just a sports commentators opinions. They make leaps of logic all the time (just read Jason Stark) .

                        Funny thing is Dusty Baker made a comment that was actually racist and the thing blew over in a day or so. Just interesting is all .
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Theben
                          You could also guess that Rush knew what the response would be. He hasn't exactly been a brilliant commentator, and now he gets to leave after doing his sport person stint, controversy in hand, as opposed to leaving b/c of lack of ability. He looks like even more of a moron to regular folks, but he never cared about them anyway. To his cult following, it can only make him look better, as the "liberal media" and "blacks" have conspired against him to force him to resign.
                          Oh right. The man is on over 600 stations, has money coming out of his ass and has more to talk about than he can cover in three hours a day with elections around the corner, so he decides to sacrifice his dream of bieng an NFL commentator (which he has spoken of for years upon years, and applied for for years upon years) in order to eke out a few more ratings points.

                          Yeah, that makes sense.

                          The man goofed. No more, no less.
                          No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                          • #28
                            If you really want to get cynical, you could say that McNabb is just pissed about Rush's comments about his playing ability, but shifted focus to his other comment because he knew he could get people riled up about it.

                            Honestly, there are so many ways to look at this whole thing. Personally, I don't think it's a big deal. Somebody accused the media of touting someone because they were black. Boo ****ing hoo.
                            "Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
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                            • #29
                              If you really want to get cynical, you could say that McNabb is just pissed about Rush's comments about his playing ability, but shifted focus to his other comment because he knew he could get people riled up about it.
                              I'm cynical enough for that.

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                              • #30
                                On another thread someone made a great point... people were outraged when others boycotted the Dixie Chicks for making their anti-President comments, because of freedom of speech. Some of these same people asked ABC to fire Rush. Ironic, no? Or does first amendment not extend to race issues?

                                Another interesting thing is if you see the actual clip of the show, Rush was talking to Tom Jackson, a black man, and he didn't show that he was offended at all. In fact he nodded when Rush said the media was trying to promote black QBs and coaches.
                                Last edited by Imran Siddiqui; October 2, 2003, 02:01.
                                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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