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    McNabb: Too late for an apology from Limbaugh

    By ROB MAADDI, AP Sports Writer
    October 1, 2003
    PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- Donovan McNabb doesn't mind criticism of his performance. He's upset that Rush Limbaugh made his race an issue.

    And the Philadelphia Eagles' quarterback says it's too late for an apology from the talk show host, who said the media has overrated McNabb because they want to see a black quarterback succeed.

    ``It's somewhat shocking to hear that on national TV from him,'' McNabb said Wednesday. ``It's not something that I can sit here and say won't bother me.''

    Limbaugh insisted Wednesday he had ``no racist intent whatsoever.'' In fact, the conservative commentator said he must have been right; otherwise, the comments would not have sparked such outrage.

    Before McNabb led the Eagles to a 23-13 victory over the Buffalo Bills on Sunday, Limbaugh said on ESPN's pregame show that he didn't think McNabb was as good as perceived from the start.

    think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well,'' Limbaugh said on ``Sunday NFL Countdown.'' ``There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team.''

    Limbaugh did not back down during his syndicated radio talk show Wednesday.

    ``All this has become the tempest that it is because I must have been right about something,'' Limbaugh said. ``If I wasn't right, there wouldn't be this cacophony of outrage that has sprung up in the sports writer community.''

    The NFL disclaimed any responsibility.

    ``ESPN knew what it was getting when they hired Rush Limbaugh,'' league vice president Joe Browne said. ``ESPN selects its on-air talent, not the NFL.''

    Chris Berman, who anchors the ESPN show, said he did not believe Limbaugh's tone or intent was malicious.

    ``As cut and dry as it seems in print, I didn't think so when it went by my ears,'' he said. ``I probably should have looked to soften it. We're sorry we upset a guy who got off to a rough start. We don't need to be in the middle of his travails.''

    McNabb said someone on the show should have taken on Limbaugh. Among the other panelists are former players Michael Irvin and Tom Jackson, both of whom are black.

    ``I'm not pointing at anyone but someone should have said it,'' McNabb said of the panelists, who also include former quarterback Steve Young. ``I wouldn't have cared if it was the cameraman.''

    Limbaugh was scheduled to be in Philadelphia on Thursday to speak at a broadcast convention. McNabb said he wouldn't be welcome at Eagles' practice.

    "I really don't want to see him,'' McNabb said. "You can say you're sorry all you want, it doesn't matter. It's been said.''

    The extent of the controversy became more evident when Democratic presidential candidate Wesley Clark urged ESPN to fire Limbaugh. Clark, a retired Army general who entered the race Sept. 17, called the remarks "hateful and ignorant speech.''

    The NAACP also condemned Limbaugh's remarks, calling them "bigoted and ignorant,'' and called for the network to fire Limbaugh or at least provide an opposing point of view on the show.

    "It is appalling that ESPN has to go to this extent to try to increase viewership,'' NAACP President Kweisi Mfume said in a statement.

    McNabb, who was runner-up for the league MVP award in 2000 and has led the Eagles to two straight NFC championship games, said he has no quarrel with Limbaugh's comment on his ability.

    "I know I played badly the first two games,'' he said.

    McNabb got off to the worst start of his career this season and was the NFL's lowest-rated starting quarterback after losses to Tampa Bay and New England. Still, the Eagles are 36-22 in games he has started, including 4-3 in the playoffs.

    Limbaugh on Wednesday reiterated that he doesn't think McNabb is a bad player, just that he isn't as good as some media members think he is.

    "This is such a mountain out of a molehill,'' he said. "There's no racism here, there's no racist intent whatsoever.''

    Seven black quarterbacks started games last weekend. Two other blacks who regularly start, Daunte Culpepper of Minnesota and Michael Vick of Atlanta, were out with injuries.

    Asked about Limbaugh's comments, Eagles defensive end N.D. Kalu said: ``He speaks well, he's well-read, but he's an idiot.''

    Limbaugh is the radio host of the politically focused ``Rush Limbaugh Show,'' which is syndicated in more than 650 markets worldwide.

    He spent most of the 1990s assailing then-President Clinton and now spends Sunday mornings talking football, a job he called ``the fulfillment of a dream.''

    Limbaugh has helped increase the ratings for ``Sunday NFL Countdown.'' ESPN spokesman Dave Nagle said ratings are up 10 percent overall. Sunday's show drew its biggest audience in the regular season since 1996.



    I, personally, think that Rush was right up to the point where he said McNabb didn't carry the team.

    He didn't carry the entire team, but he sure as hell carried the offense.

    ACK!
    Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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    ``He speaks well, he's well-read, but he's an idiot.''
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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    • #3
      I'm tired of hearing racist and bigot being thrown around whenever something is said about a person who isn't white.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Verto
        I'm tired of hearing racist and bigot being thrown around whenever something is said about a person who isn't white.
        Question his ability as a player sure, but Rush could have easily said "The media made him out to be a better player than he really is, they wanted to see him succeed. We've now seen his true playing ability."

        I don't see anything there that could be interpreted as racism unless the **** Limbaugh spewed on ESPN

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        • #5
          Originally posted by H Tower


          Question his ability as a player sure, but Rush could have easily said "The media made him out to be a better player than he really is, they wanted to see him succeed. We've now seen his true playing ability."

          I don't see anything there that could be interpreted as racism unless the **** Limbaugh spewed on ESPN
          IMO, what Limbaugh said was not racist.

          We use the term so often, it has lost all true meaning.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Verto


            IMO, what Limbaugh said was not racist.

            We use the term so often, it has lost all true meaning.
            Nah. Look up "Racist" and "bigot" in the dictionary, and you'll find a picture of Rush.
            I'm consitently stupid- Japher
            I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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            • #7
              Rush can be a jackass.

              He once called my mother a feminazi.

              I like the rest of his family, other than his brother David, who rides his bro's conservative coattails.

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              • #8
                What Rush said was racist. Not extremely racist, nor was it very racist, but it was still offensively racist. What a schmuck.
                "mono has crazy flow and can rhyme words that shouldn't, like Eminem"
                Drake Tungsten
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                Albert Speer

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Theben


                  Nah. Look up "Racist" and "bigot" in the dictionary, and you'll find a picture of Rush.
                  Oh, wake up.
                  No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                  • #10
                    Yeah... Rush is a jackass...

                    What else is new?

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                    • #11
                      No, what Rush said was not racist in any way. Did he even imply that blacks aren't as good as whites at QB? Nope. He just said the media has hyped McNabb, because they want a popular black QB. Stupid, yeah... racist, no.
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                        No, what Rush said was not racist in any way. Did he even imply that blacks aren't as good as whites at QB? Nope. He just said the media has hyped McNabb, because they want a popular black QB. Stupid, yeah... racist, no.
                        There was no reason to mention race. And considering it was Rush who said it, proving there wasn't a racial bias intended is difficult at best.
                        I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                        I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                        • #13
                          There was no reason to mention race.


                          He was trying to explain why McNabb is overrated. He came up with race.

                          And considering it was Rush who said it, proving there wasn't a racial bias intended is difficult at best.


                          I haven't seen any proof that he is racist... other than people continuing to say it and hoping it'll stick .
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • #14
                            InuYasha on now...me go bye-bye for 30 min.
                            I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                            I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                            • #15
                              Damn... Rush just resigned from ESPN NFL Countdown. He was actually fun on that show..
                              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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