A question for the Great Sages of Apolyton

[Imran Siddiqui]

He can get in to this EASILY

Depends how he plays his cards, and what Yvonne's feelings are for Vincent at this point (though it is a 4 year relationship at this point)

[Ted Striker]

But if he gets in he is to NOT try and help her get over this dude

He has to know that he could get burned bad

[Imran Siddiqui]

People who are still suffering "anguish" over an X that was quite a while ago are trouble.

Bull****. Rough breakups and ex's that treated you like **** will leave scars, no matter how 'strong' you are. It is still lurking underneath the surface... especially if he told her crap like she isn't pretty enough, etc.

[Imran Siddiqui]

What? She has been with this Vincent dude for 4 years?!?!?!?!?

Valentine's Day 1999 is when she started with him, IIRC.

That is why I said he missed the train. But who knows?

[Asher]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Bull****. Rough breakups and ex's that treated you like **** will leave scars, no matter how 'strong' you are. It is still lurking underneath the surface... especially if he told her crap like she isn't pretty enough, etc.

1) People that stick around for abusive relationships for any length of time are obviously insane to begin with
2) What's the problem if you break up? You break up, you move on, you find a new guy or you save money and download porn off Kazaa.

If there's one thing I can't stand it's people sobbing over ex's. I want to throttle them and tell them to get a clue.

[Ted Striker]

Nah he didn't miss the train unless she gets married

But right now he needs to move on to someone else.

Also for him to try and date this chick sounds shady and disrespectful towards Vincent.

Check the game not the player

4 YEARS?!??!?!

[Imran Siddiqui]

1) People that stick around for abusive relationships for any length of time are obviously insane to begin with

Who says the relationship was abusive and not the breakup itself. There are something you can say during a breakup that can really mess the other person up.

2) What's the problem if you break up? You break up, you move on, you find a new guy or you save money and download porn off Kazaa.

Ah, I see our little Asher has no heart .

When you put your heart and soul into a relationship that lasts longer than a few years and then the partner rips your heart out at the end or at the breakup (telling her that she never was pretty, telling her she sucks in bed, telling her how horrible of a g/f she was, etc.) that is a recipe to make ANY woman insecure for years.

Also for him to try and date this chick sounds shady and disrespectful towards Vincent.

Oh, very true. It seems like Yvonne is happy with Vincent (she stayed with him this long). No need to trample.

[Asher]

Ah, I see our little Asher has no heart .

When you put your heart and soul into a relationship that lasts longer than a few years and then the partner rips your heart out at the end or at the breakup (telling her that she never was pretty, telling her she sucks in bed, telling her how horrible of a g/f she was, etc.) that is a recipe to make ANY woman insecure for years.

I have an extreme distaste for drama.

And I know that's enough to make many (not any) women insecure, but I still think it's stupid.

It doesn't take a very bright mind to know that during a "rough" breakup mean things will be said, most of them not true. Further, why the hell does it matter what he thinks, he's obviously a jerk anyway with no taste.

It must be hard for guys to find girls that aren't drama queens. Such a shame.

[Imran Siddiqui]

It doesn't take a very bright mind to know that during a "rough" breakup mean things will be said, most of them not true. Further, why the hell does it matter what he thinks, he's obviously a jerk anyway with no taste.

If he's a 'jerk with no taste' (as she'll tell her friends later) then why did she date him for so long? The reason is that she probably did, at some point, love him. That meant that she thought him to be wonderful. A lot of mean things will be said, and some of them may not be true, but I'm actually sure most of them WILL be true. When you just don't give a crap and don't want to see the person again, you'll likely go off and everything you wish you said but didn't.

It must be hard for guys to find girls that aren't drama queens.

This is amusing coming from a gay guy .

[Asher]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
This is amusing coming from a gay guy .

And why is that amusing?
Most gay guys aren't drama queens, hell I thought we were the ones that had sex in every public washroom we could find.

Women are the ones who will crush your balls if you forget an anniversary, or ask you if they look fat, or whine every time you look at an attractive woman.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Most gay guys aren't drama queens

Could have fooled me. All you have to do is look a little bit on this site. .

Women are the ones who will crush your balls if you forget an anniversary, or ask you if they look fat, or whine every time you look at an attractive woman.

You need better women friends .

[Az]

Yes, Asher, "Go Gay!"

Seriously, Asher is sort of right on this.

Say, how old is the guy now? His incompetence is staggering.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
You need better women friends .

Yes, my women friends are always on my case about my forgetting their anniversary, and my checking out of all of the hot women.

[Imran Siddiqui]

my women friends are always on my case about my forgetting their anniversary, and my checking out of all of the hot women.

Obviously they do it to their boyfriends, or are you telling me you get all your information from tv?

[Asher]

I've no idea if they do it to their boyfriends, I've only got one girl that I'm friends with and she doesn't. Though she's an engineer and used to do dirty dancing, so she's a no-nonsense kind of girl herself.

I get most of this from my guy-friends who get in **** from their girlfriends all the time over stupid stuff.