Democracy is unAmerican. Republicanism, on the other hand, is as American as Apple Pie and Hipocracy. Didn't they teach you anything in Civics, Comrade?
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Originally posted by Oerdin
Man I can remember a year ago when Gov. Grey Davis won election where 70% of the population hated his guts simply because the other party couldn't get their act together. If Davis can out smear his opposition then I suspect Bush will be able to smear a flip flopper like Dean in no time.If you look around and think everyone else is an *******, you're the *******.
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Bush will be beaten because:
1. His pontificating on the Iraq issue has been completely, utterly and absolutely discredited.
2. Tax cuts don't work.
3. He has failed in the War on Terror.
4. He has made the US look like Satan and alienated almost all its friends.Only feebs vote.
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I understand that sentiment, which is why I'm curious as to why you support a system which actually encourages this as opposed to a popular system.
We are a large country with diverse needs in concerns as a majority and as local majorities. Our counts should amount to one vote and not to many, as we are electing one president.
So you're opposed to democracy?
Anyway, the governor doesn't make the laws, he executes them. The state legislature makes the laws, and they come from all over the state.
Plus, if the market has a better use for the land, as a supporter of capitalism, why don't you see this as a better use?
Note: I have been eyeing the central valley for sometime as a place for emerging biotechs. Seems that it is a great place to go because the city water systems can handle the large amount of waste generated by the biotech industry, since those water facilities are use to handling contaminated water from the Ag industry...
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It's not over for Bush yet, even if it look like he is hurting. Reagan and Clinton both had very low approval ratings at their point in their first terms and both coasted to victory. Polls this early are not a good predictor of the outcome of the election. Although, if the Unemployment rate doesn't decrease and we have made no progress on Iraq, Bush will have a hard time winning.
Another thing to keep in mind is that money matter, and Bush is raising ALOT of it, and he won't have to go through an expensive primary campaign to spen money either."I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer
"I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand
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Originally posted by Agathon
Bush will be beaten because:
1. His pontificating on the Iraq issue has been completely, utterly and absolutely discredited.
2. Tax cuts don't work.
3. He has failed in the War on Terror.
4. He has made the US look like Satan and alienated
almost all its friends.
a) Foreign Policy isn't that important to American Voters when Election time arrives
b) We just don't care what the rest of the world thinks. As long as the rest of the world is portrayed as Frano-German Eurocoms who hate America, Crazy "Islamofascists" or Communists in the media, we simply won't give a damn. Americans do not care what you think.If you look around and think everyone else is an *******, you're the *******.
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The real purpose behind the system was to prevent the masses from directly controlling the government and putting in their wishes. The whole point was to get people into the office of the President who knew what they were doing. At least that is what the founding fathers had in mind.
Today though Electoral Collage votes are now determined by the popular vote in each state by law(state not federal law). Some states though dont have such a law but they vote according to the popular vote.
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Originally posted by Jack_www
The whole point was to get people into the office of the President who knew what they were doing.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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Actually, on the positions I've seen them take, Clark is more to the left that Dean. Dean isn't a left-wing candidate.Last edited by Ramo; September 24, 2003, 15:55."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
-Bokonon
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Originally posted by Ramo
How so? Which leftist positions has Clark taken? I can't figure out what the hell he stands for."I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie Allen
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I'm not saying that Dean is a left-wing candidate. I think he's pretty clearly a centrist. But AFAIK, Clark has basically made no specifics on what he wants to do, in constrast to Dean. The devil you know and all that."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
-Bokonon
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Originally posted by Japher
Ag will slowly fade out of California as the manufacturing industry creeps into the corridors into the valley (i.e. Vacaville, Fairfeild, Gilroy, Bakersfeild). Food production will drop and not only will the state starve but so will the world. Why? Because the governor is elected by popular vote, and popular vote does not guarentee social welfare and well-being, it only guarentees selfishness.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.
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I was wargaming 2004 today with a moderate Republican friend of mine, and we agreed that if there were no huge surprises in the next 14 months, if the Dems nominate Clark, he would beat Bush.
Look at the states that are likely to flip from 2000. Bush could easily lose Florida, New Hampshire, Arkansas, and West Virginia if Clark ran. Ohio, Missouri, Indiana, and Kentucky would likely stay red, but not without some effort by the Republicans.
The Dems could lose Pennsylvania... but everything else is in that "maybe, but probably not category." Michigan, Wisconsin, Oregon... likely to stay blue, but the Dems would have to work at it.
The big questions: New York and California. Could be wildcards due to 9/11 and the recall respectively; however, I'd still be very surprised to see Bush defeat Clark in those states.
If the Dems nominate someone else, it's anyone's ballgame. But it they nominate Clark, and there are no major "October surprises", Clark will be elected President in 2004. Take it to the bank."My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
"The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud
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