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Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Not UN sanction law. US federal sanction law.
Not UN sanction law. US federal sanction law.
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US Constitution trumps US federal sanction law. This will be an interesting case for the SCOTUS once they are convicted. An interesting issue also. -
Not on my federal tax dollar! Paying to prosecute and jail these morons during a deficit is not a great fiscal plan. Especially when states like Kentucky are letting real criminals out due to budgetary constraints. It's like the whole Tommy Chong/bong distribtor sweep a few months ago. What a waste of resources. The Bushies are more interested in cracking down on dissent (in this case, the dissenters are morons) than spending wisely.Originally posted by DanS
Do the crime, do the time. These shields probably even thought the law applied to them, but that the bad PR would be so great that they wouldn't be prosecuted. Poor choices.
What a ****ing joke ...- "A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it still ain't a part number." - Ron Reynolds
- I went to Zanarkand, and all I got was this lousy aeon!
- "... over 10 members raised complaints about you... and jerk was one of the nicer things they called you" - MingComment
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Oh no!
RUN, TEUVO THE HEROIC FINNISH HUMAN SHIELD! RUN LIKE THE WIND!"Spirit merges with matter to sanctify the universe. Matter transcends to return to spirit. The interchangeability of matter and spirit means the starlit magic of the outermost life of our universe becomes the soul-light magic of the innermost life of our self." - Dennis Kucinich, candidate for the U. S. presidency
"That’s the future of the Democratic Party: providing Republicans with a number of cute (but not that bright) comfort women." - Adam Yoshida, Canada's gift to the worldComment
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Halliburton makes money selling equipment to Iraq, and CEO **** Cheney becomes Vice President.
Morons send themselves to Iraq, become jail inmates.
I like.the good reverendComment
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I cannot properly express how sickened I am by the Bush Administration. This is beyond twisted and I (foolishly) never thought that Bush and his cohorts would stoop to this level.
It seems as if the East is becoming the West.
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wtf?
They violate a federal law (one that has been around for over a decade) and you are sickened that they GET PUNISHED?!Comment
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Yeah che... be sickened that criminals are arrested...
Do the crime, do the time... as it should be.Keep on Civin'
RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron OComment
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Yes, because it is not morally applicable. We were posied to invade and they wanted to stop it. The Bush Administration wanted to make them an example, so they got this law and are now going to prosecute them.
It is quite transparent.
In the Soviet Union, many people did violate the Soviet Unions laws and were killed or sent to Siberia because of it. By your logic, we shouldn't be making a fit over it because technically they were violating Soviet law.
It is morally reprehensible, and should be condemned in the strongest possible words.Comment
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Personally, I think it is treason. Or do you think that going over there and trying to help the military of a nation with which we are at war is NOT treason?Comment
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I did not see them giving plans to Saddam Hussein.
I did not see them driving any tanks or becoming soldiers for Saddam Hussein.
All I saw was them forming human shields. They didn't aid the military of Saddam Hussein, they attempted to form a "moral block" that if US troops wanted to get past, they would have to kill the shields first.
And that is about as much treason as critisizing the government in a time of war.Comment
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Unauthorized commercial trade in Iraq is one thing, the mere act of travel for what is essentially a political protest (the First Amendment doesn't address whether or not it's a misguided protest) is another.
These people are useless losers, but prosecuting them (I'm sure there must be another porn distributor out there
, or maybe we could go back to making an example of Martha Stewart ) is a waste of time and money.
At best they're anonymous losers, at worst, depending on your point of view, they're a waste of taxpayer dollars or a demonstration of the Bush admin's excesses.When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."Comment
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They haven't even been tried, let alone sentenced. Twelve years is the maximum, and since that's probably included to nail smugglers and other bad guys, I doubt they're in danger of it.Originally posted by optimus2861
It's one thing to charge them with the crime of travelling to an embargoed country, but 12 years in prison?! How does that punishment fit the mere crime of travelling to somewhere that policy makers don't want you to go?
I can't help but wonder how many Americans have travelled to Cuba through Canada and not even been prosecuted, while of course the wannabe 'human shields' in Iraq (or at least this one in the article) will get the book thrown at them. Reeks of vengeful politics.
Besides, I've always felt that slightly 'excessive' sentences are a better deterrent, anyway.
No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.Comment
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If Bush arrests these people for going to Iraq and being human shields, is he going to arrest Cheney for selling Saddam oil equipment via Halliburton from 1997-2000?
I think we all know the answer.
I have no problem with people paying penalties for breaking the law. I just wish the law was applied to everyone.
To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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It was. Halliburton had a treasury clearance to trade with Iraq (remember who was in office) under exceptions granted by the UN authorized food for oil program.
Sorry, try harder next time.When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."Comment
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another reason to hate the current U.S. govermentComment
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