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  • What is Human?

    basically this is a common idea, but I like it

    basically every person is a different person than the person who went by the same name and had many of the same moeculeswho inhabited the space he is currently in a moment ago (we won't go into what a moment is)

    so when we come down to it, it is a different person doing things all the time

    now who that person is, is a combination of decisions by past selves (we will call them this just to aid in delivering the concept) as well as the environment

    now, I like existing (I wouldn't want to live forever but that is a different issue) right now, and so would not like to not exist

    but the best I can hope for is to have a lot of control over future people (especially future versions of myself)

    now this is my problem with drugs

    you lose a lot of control over future versions of yourself, because it is messing with your mind in ways that you are not in control of

    my dad has a car accident in 1990 and we had a lot of talks where he would say that he died that day

    and he did, I now think

    the head injury was such that he was not only not the same person (which he wouldn't be anyway), but he was a different person in a way in which he had no control over

    now I know that drugs aren't usually as sudden as that, but once you make the choice to use them, you have little control over what sorts of effects they will have on you, those aren't effects that you create independently of other forms of reality

    I try to be affected by others as little as possible because effecting future realities is all I can do now

    anyways, it is something to think about

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    I am human.


    Anything that can make the above statement on its own, is a human.
    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by chegitz guevara
      I am human.

      Anything that can make the above statement on its own, is a human.
      A computer can do that, if you teach it to.

      Anyway, an alien life form could do that (and be lying) and it wouldn't be human.
      Only feebs vote.

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      • #4
        A computer can repeat the statement. It can't make the statement.
        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by chegitz guevara
          A computer can repeat the statement. It can't make the statement.
          But the same goes for a child. You have to teach it language first.

          The word "make" is doing too much undefined work in that sentence.
          Only feebs vote.

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          • #6
            But the computer is non-sentient.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
              But the computer is non-sentient.
              Define "sentient".
              Only feebs vote.

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              • #8
                OK.

                sen·tient ( P ) Pronunciation Key (snshnt, -sh-nt)
                adj.
                Having sense perception; conscious: “The living knew themselves just sentient puppets on God's stage” (T.E. Lawrence).
                Experiencing sensation or feeling.
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                • #9
                  How can I tell that you are sentient?
                  Only feebs vote.

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                  • #10
                    And this is completely on-thread.
                    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Agathon
                      But the same goes for a child. You have to teach it language first.
                      I would argue that babies and infants aren't really human beings yet.
                      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                      • #12
                        I am human, now the rest of yous..that is questionable.

                        I go for the simplistic upright naked Ape from Africa that happens to have the gift/curse of setience definition.
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                        • #13
                          If you are a liberal, you are a human. Next question.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Agathon
                            How can I tell that you are sentient?
                            Because I'm posting here.
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                            • #15
                              I would argue that babies and infants aren't really human beings yet.
                              So, by extension, we can simply kill babies and infants if they become bothersome, sorta like we can put down dogs, right?
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