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  • #16
    Originally posted by Ted Striker
    The sad thing is that farmers have been crossbreeding plants since the beginning of time.
    Yes, but they used methods that are more in-bounds with nature. Not that I completely agree with it, but atleast they wouldn't have much luck mating a pig with a tomato.
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    • #17
      i think one of the main issues is with labling over here, which i think is fair enough. whatever the merits or otherwise of GM foods, people want to know what they're eating.
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      • #18
        They want to genetically engineer a non-eye-stinging onion by removing the enzymes that cause the offending gases.

        I've got no problem with that.

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        • #19
          i'm all for gm-modified foods.

          most of these fears are quite unfounded. sure, it could cause an evolutionary arms race.

          then again, so do antibiotics. do we roll over and die because we refuse to take antibiotics, because it'll make bacteria resistant to it? hell no.

          if these genes are transferred, nature will find a way, and so will we.
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          • #20
            Lefty: GM foods are environmentally damaging.

            Food corp: OK, we'll make it so our seeds can't pollinate or spread

            Lefty: You evil bastard! Make those crops so third-world farmers can get seeds from them and grow more rather than needing to keep buying from giant evil big bad food corporation.

            Food corp: OK, we'll let their seeds spread.

            Lefty: GM foods are environmentally damaging.

            Blah blah...
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            • #21
              Park!

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              • #22
                Cockney
                "i think one of the main issues is with labling over here, which i think is fair enough. whatever the merits or otherwise of GM foods, people want to know what they're eating."

                That still adds some costs and is therefore a trade barrier, even if it might seem a small one (I don't know if it small or not).
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                • #23
                  GM foods can be very good. It's only the same as farmers have been doing for centuries, breeding plants with other plants to get the best performing plants.

                  Creating disease resistant high yield crops can be very beneficial, especially for third world countries. There are other benefits as well. Disease resistance could reduce the use of chemical treatments on food etc. etc.

                  The concerns are about what happens to other species when you introduce the GM ones. Look what happens if you introduce rabbits to Australia, it's not as obvious what happens with plants but there can be effects. Mainly the concerns here would be in implanting genes from different sources into the same plant, might increase yields but could have other unforseen effects.

                  So all in all they are potentially very benificial, but like anything they need to keep up testing and regulation.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Park Avenue
                    Lefty: GM foods are environmentally damaging.

                    Food corp: OK, we'll make it so our seeds can't pollinate or spread

                    Lefty: You evil bastard! Make those crops so third-world farmers can get seeds from them and grow more rather than needing to keep buying from giant evil big bad food corporation.

                    Food corp: OK, we'll let their seeds spread.

                    Lefty: GM foods are environmentally damaging.

                    Blah blah...
                    I'm a lefty, and I don't see any major problem with GM foods.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by MikeH
                      GM foods can be very good. It's only the same as farmers have been doing for centuries, breeding plants with other plants to get the best performing plants.
                      It's not the same. They make combinations that where previously impossible, and it is not limited to plants (not that it was before, either). The spider-goats, or growth hormones in cattle being a good example.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Park Avenue
                        That still adds some costs and is therefore a trade barrier, even if it might seem a small one (I don't know if it small or not).
                        it's done already for products which contain or may contain nuts, for people with allergies, i fail to see any major cost involved with doing something similar for GM foods.
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                        • #27
                          But there are no health risks for GM foods, whereas there are for some people with foods containing nuts.
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                          • #28
                            that's hardly the point though is it. it's something that people want to know, why is there a problem with giving consumers the information they want?
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                            • #29
                              Increases costs.
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                              • #30
                                by the sum total of **** all in the scheme of things.
                                "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                                "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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