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  • #46
    Well UK policy has usually been to ask "how high" when the US says "jump". It's just never been as extreme as in the case of Iraq, though that may mostly be based on Blair's delusion. Considering your own interests to some extent was what I'd see as a "semblance of independence".
    “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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    • #47
      Like housing US Cruise missiles in UK bases, turning Britain into a big "bullseye" target?
      The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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      • #48
        Germany did that too.
        “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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        • #49
          Did they let the Americans build the world's largest telecommunications surveillance base on their soil and leave it under the sole control of the US military?
          The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Big Crunch
            Sir Humphrey: "Minister, Britain has had the same foreign policy objective for at least the last 500 years: to create a disunited Europe. In that cause we have fought with the Dutch against the Spanish, with the Germans against the French, with the French and Italians against the Germans, and with the French against the Germans and Italians. Divide and rule, you see. Why should we change now when it's worked so well?"

            Jim Hacker: "That's all ancient history, surely."

            Sir Humphrey: "Yes, and current policy. We had to break the whole thing [the EEC] up, so we had to get inside. We tried to break it up from the outside, but that wouldn't work. Now that we're inside we can make a complete pig's breakfast of the whole thing: set the Germans against the French, the French against the Italians, the Italians against the Dutch. The Foreign Office is terribly pleased, it's just like old times."


            grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

            The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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            • #51
              It's the largest? Anyway, the NSA has at least one big outlet in Germany, Bad Aibling... on the other hand, Britain profits from the information exchange, at least to some extent.
              “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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              • #52
                Britian follows the US less than Austria follows Germany. And to better ends...

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                • #53
                  Le General had said not to let the rose-biefs in.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by HershOstropoler
                    It's the largest? Anyway, the NSA has at least one big outlet in Germany, Bad Aibling... on the other hand, Britain profits from the information exchange, at least to some extent.
                    You're off in Che-Indy media land now. Does this really have any significance? Or is it just the latest Euro affection? If you want to dig at UK, get after them for their support in the War. Who cares about that Echelon crap. It is booshwa.

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                    • #55
                      "Britian follows the US less than Austria follows Germany. And to better ends..."

                      Your trolls have really gone down the drain since the name change.

                      "You're off in Che-Indy media land now."

                      I love my tinfoil, thanks.
                      “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                      • #56
                        for we can not allow the rosebiefs into our humane union. they will destroy it. like the vile warm destroys the healthy red apple from the INSIDE.

                        Le General had warned,

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                        • #57
                          Les rosebiefs are trapped in their own web.
                          “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                          • #58
                            Ros-bifs isn't it Paki?
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                            • #59
                              rosebeefs or worms.

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                              • #60
                                Who's got the marbles?
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