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  • #31
    I knew polls like that were out there, but Zogby makes one pay for their polls (damn capitalists!).

    Edwards is from SC: no kidding he would be ahead. I would be shocked to see Dean far aheadof Graham in florida, given Graham is popular there. Or Gephard in Missouri.
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    • #32
      Edwards is from NC.

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      • #33
        I'm shocked that Dean is #2 in SC, not that Edwards is #1.
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        • #34
          Bumped... so that maybe we can avoid yet another
          Wesley Clark thread...
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          • #35
            Originally posted by GePap
            Kerry and Dean both have much more passionate support, though the thing about Senators follows Kerry.
            Some (a lot?) of Kerry's support will move to Clark, I suspect.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by GePap
              And given that in the latests polls "unnamed democrat" comes within 3 points of Bush
              So when will the some democrat get a clue and change his name to Unnamed?
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              • #37
                Originally posted by DanS
                Over the weekend. See, for instance, question #998 and #999 at the bottom. Lieberman outpolls the closest rival by 8 points. Sharpton outpolls Edwards.

                Any poll in which Al Sharpton beats ANYBODY, up to and including the Where's the Beef Lady, is cause for concern. Either the poll is wrong or we have conclusive prove that democracy doesn't work.
                With that said, this is pretty ridiculous, but not much worse than the Ineffectual Ken-Doll vs. Superchimp match four years ago. I can vote now, but I don't have any idea who I would vote for other than "not Dubya," provided of course Sharpton doesn't get nominated by a miracle of God, which isn't likely because in my experience God likes to have more reliable spokespeople who actually represent His ideals as opposed to a pan-ethnic embittered rabblerousing shpiel. Gah.
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                • #38
                  Can someone tell Clark that if he is wants to criticize Bush on the economy, that he should at least use accurate numbers. Today, Clark said the budget went from a 5 trillion surplus to a 5 trillion deficit. Those numbers are not even close. The deficit is ~ 500 billion not 5 trillion. He is off by a factor of 10. He should get his numbers straight before opening his mouth.
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                  • #39
                    He's probably talking about ten year projections.
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                    • #40
                      "Some (a lot?) of Kerry's support will move to Clark, I suspect."

                      I supported Kerry originally, but then I switched to Dean.
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                      • #41
                        It would be nice to read something of substance about Gen. Clark here. This thread is all about the Presidential horse race. I don't even know if I should cheer for Wes, beacause I don't know much about him.

                        Here's a radical idea: If we looked at things in greater depth, instead of soundbytes, maybe we could come up with sane policies.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                          He's probably talking about ten year projections.
                          Then he should have said ten year projection. He didn't.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by realpolitic
                            It would be nice to read something of substance about Gen. Clark here.
                            -he was fired from his job as NATO commander for disrespecting the chain of command.

                            -During the Kosovo war, he wanted NATO troops to attack an airport being guarded by Russian troops, an order that if obeyed might had started WW3.

                            Does that sound like someone you want as President? I sure don't.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by realpolitic
                              It would be nice to read something of substance about Gen. Clark here.
                              He's a blank slate given that his positions on a wide range of issues aren't widely known. Other than the fact that he was/is anti-Iraq war, what The Diplomat wrote is the best you are going to get.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by DinoDoc
                                He's a blank slate given that his positions on a wide range of issues aren't widely known.
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