Make it 10 - Wesley Clark for president

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by GePap
And given that in the latests polls "unnamed democrat" comes within 3 points of Bush,

Unnamed Democrats always poll fairly decently.

The problem is when we have to name them, and then the voters see who it is we're actually talking about.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by GePap
The thing is Bush is NOT strong in the polls, not as far as asking people whether they will re-elected him. Iraq turned around on him as a political issue, and the economy is growing, but has not been creating jobs, which is what people (not economists) use to measure their well-being.

And when we get to November 2004, the events and poll standings of September 2003 will be about as relevant to the political landscape as the last ice age.

[DanS]

Also, I don;t know from when you people last looked at the polls, but Lieberman does not lead any of them among democrats

Over the weekend. See, for instance, question #998 and #999 at the bottom. Lieberman outpolls the closest rival by 8 points. Sharpton outpolls Edwards.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/vault/stories/data091303.html

[GePap]

Those polls show that a significant portion of voters feel no strong attachment to Bush: the issue for Dems is to build a strong attachment to their guys. The one thing is too many senators..senators almost never win.

[DanS]

Didn't you look at the poll question that I referenced? It doesn't have anything to do with Bush.

[DanS]

998. (and 999) (ASKED OF LEANED DEMOCRATS) If the 
2004 Democratic presidential primary or caucus in your state 
were being held today, and the candidates were: (Joseph 
Lieberman, Richard Gephardt, John Kerry, John Edwards, Al 
Sharpton, Bob Graham, Howard Dean, Dennis Kucinich, Carol 
Moseley Braun, or Wesley Clark), for whom would you vote?

Net Leaned Vote:

                 9/13/03   7/10/03   6/1/03   4/30/03   1/20/03    7/15/02** 
Lieberman           22        13       14       29        27         10
Gephardt            14        10       10       19        14          5
Kerry               14        12        7       14        10          6
Edwards              3         6        6        4        11          3
Graham               4         3        4        3        NA         NA
Dean                14         8        3        3         3          1
Sharpton             5         6        2        3         7         NA
Moseley Braun        4         4        1        6        NA         NA
Kucinich             2         2        1        2        NA         NA
Clark                6        NA       NA       NA        NA         NA
H.R. Clinton        NA        NA       37       NA        NA         NA
Other                1         2        *        1         1          3
None                 3        13        3        1         4          *
Wouldn't vote        2         7        2        0         0          0
No opinion           7        16       11       14        24         18

[Timexwatch]

What about the Wicked Witch of Westchester?



I'd expect to see Dean to get a McCain bounce coming out of N.H.. Time will tell if he'll flame out.

For all the old-timers: How did McGovern do in the early primaries?

Also, I'm taking bets on the first guy to bite the dust. My money is on Edwards.

[MichaeltheGreat]

McGovern went nowhere until Muskie flamed out of the race.

Oh, and don't mention McGovern again, please.

[GePap]

IN the one on one match-ups he does only 1 point better than Kerry or Gephard vs Bush...

well, so Che is right, he does lead in those places not concentrating on the election..but he is way behind in raising money, so those people saying they would vote for him seem to have little interest in giving him a dime. Seems tepid support to me.

[GePap]

Originally posted by DanS
Didn't you look at the poll question that I referenced? It doesn't have anything to do with Bush.

How fast am I supposed to respond?

DanS posts poll 3:18, I finish writing response to MtG 3:19, by 3:20 DanS expects a response? I'm not superman.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by GePap
well, so Che is right,

Never forget this!

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Never forget this!

Even a broken clock.

[GePap]

Lieberman is not raising much cash, not even from big donors, so to me his support seems tepid and weak. He is runnign a lackluster campaing based on the idea that since he is the most conservative Dem, he has the rgeater chance of winning: well, again, Gore did not campaing as a conservative Dem and he won the popular vote.

Kerry and Dean both have much more passionate support, though the thing about Senators follows Kerry.

[chequita guevara]

I agree. Lieberman's polling high because of name recognition. He'll drop after the first primaries and caucuses.

[Ramo]

According to Zogby, Dean has the highest plurality nationally. He's also the front runner in Iowa and NH by a large margin. And he's second in SC, oddly enough (1% below Edwards).