Terrorism in Texas. Twenty SUVs Damaged in Texas Attack.

[Jack_www]

Originally posted by Osweld


Not really. Having the materials decay and seep into the environment slowly isn't any better then shooting it all out in a big burst of flame.




That's the general idea, I think. And the damage isn't insignifgant, either.



It does by sustaining industry - if we did not recycle we'd burn up all the resources and our industry would collapse.



And what's more natural then fire? It's nature's favorite tool for cleaning up.

Sorry, but that's just not true. For one thing, there is no way they are going to leave it there and let nature reclaim, they'll tear it down and scrap it, or use it to build a new fun and pollution spewing factory in it's place. Eitherway, the materials are going to seep back into the environemnt one way or the other. Whether that's through smoke or soil/water contamination doesn't really matter.

So what you are saying is one recycling does not help the enviroment. That we should just consume all earth's natural resources so that it would be impossible to polute, and that burning a a building down is just as good as recycling it? This is stupid if you ask me. Then why dont we burn down old buildings, it would be a lot faster then tearing it down.

[MRT144]

Originally posted by Osweld


Not really. Having the materials decay and seep into the environment slowly isn't any better then shooting it all out in a big burst of flame.

Prove to me that it sitting there is far worse than it burning. The same pollutants are not released by it sitting there doing nothing. You think all pollution is the same?

[size=1] Sorry, but that's just not true. For one thing, there is no way they are going to leave it there and let nature reclaim, they'll tear it down and scrap it, or use it to build a new fun and pollution spewing factory or something. Eitherway, the materials are going to seep back into the environemnt one way or the other. Wether that's through smoke or soil/water contamination doesn't really matter.

It does matter. take some classes in science and use some common sense.

[Theben]

Originally posted by Agathon


You can add my name to that. People who drive SUV's are selfish arseholes who put everyone else at risk.

Most people buy SUV's for protection, in case of an accident, or for cargo space. A few arseholes buy them for 'status'. In the 1st case you can't really blame them; it's the "me and my family come 1st" scenario.
That said I think we could use less SUV's on the road.

Sloww, I [Louisiana drawl]guarantee[/Louisiana drawl] that them dad burn lib'ruls had nuthin' to do with this. We don't use guns, remember?

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by MRT144


Prove to me that it sitting there is far worse than it burning. The same pollutants are not released by it sitting there doing nothing. You think all pollution is the same?



It does matter. take some classes in science and use some common sense.

I am using common sense. Burning it is a rapid form of decaying - after the fire, what's left is not going to be there much longer. While on the other hand, if you leave something to decay it will be effecting the environment for a much longer period of time.

The results of a fire may be more toxic initially. But when compared to the extra centuries - millenia even - that it would be effecting the environment if it is left to rust into oblivion? Not to mention that it would likely fall victim to a natural fire before then, anyways.


Just to be clear, I'm not saying that burning it causes less pollution - it's uncomparable really. And, like I said before, all the same in the end.

[MRT144]

the problem is you cant recycle burnt ****. if you want to save the world osweld kill yourself. i dont need to read your "dust in the wind" obtuseness anymore.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by MRT144
the problem is you cant recycle burnt ****. if you want to save the world osweld kill yourself. i dont need to read your "dust in the wind" obtuseness anymore.

Don't blaim me if you can't cope with the big picture.

And I already adressed recycling - it sustains industry.

[MRT144]

i can cope with the big picture by doing little things. By not being a nihilistic enviromentalretard i feel that i can make a difference in every day life.

kill yourself osweld. itll help save the planet.

[Sava]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Sava doesn't care.
He doesn't drive an SUV, so it's no biggie.

Actually, my parents have a Toyota Highlander... it's considered an SUV, but built off of a Camry platform.

Ladies and Gentlemen, that's indicative of the real problem.
Happens to someone else, hey, no biggie.

Sure it's a problem... but I prioritize things. What's more of a problem... a few dip****s vandalizing some SUV's, or SUV's themselves. Personally, I think polluting, gas guzzling SUV's are more of a problem than a few twits.

The idea of the greater good might be foreign to you SLoww, so I forgive you.

[Theben]

Originally posted by Sava
What's more of a problem... a few dip****s vandalizing some SUV's, or SUV's themselves. Personally, I think polluting, gas guzzling SUV's are more of a problem than a few twits.

And what's the effect of the twits vandalizing:
Did it educate anyone?
Did it stop one person from purchasing an SUV?
Did it stop GM, Ford, etc. from continuing to produce SUV's?

Or did it put environmentalists (in general) in a bad light?

We know what the 'problem' is. Try offering a SOLUTION.

[MRT144]

kill enviromentalists

[Sava]

Originally posted by Theben
And what's the effect of the twits vandalizing:
Did it educate anyone?
Did it stop one person from purchasing an SUV?
Did it stop GM, Ford, etc. from continuing to produce SUV's?

Or did it put environmentalists (in general) in a bad light?

We know what the 'problem' is. Try offering a SOLUTION.

I agree... that's why I don't pay much attention to this stuff. I just chuckle. OTOH, the effect of driving inefficient and wasteful vehicles is seriously detrimental to the environmental health of the world. Sure, these people are dopes and are only hurting the cause they presume to support; but it pales in comparison to the abuses of the auto industry with respect to SUV's.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by MRT144
i can cope with the big picture by doing little things. By not being a nihilistic enviromentalretard i feel that i can make a difference in every day life.

So what differences do you make? I might be a nihilistic enviromentalretard but I do make an effort where I can. I'm a minimalist consumer, don't drive cars, eat organic, ect... maybe it's just to occupy myself while I wait for doomsday, but no difference.


By the way, ELF isn't nihilistic. They must think humans can go back to nature or something, because they go out of their way not to kill anyone through their actions. I guess they're optimists.

[Japher]

If this is Texas terrorism I guess the only thing worse would be a mass "football deflater" on the lose! Heaven forbid...

[Jack_www]

This reminds me also of a Tom Clancy book were enviromental terriorist use the a virus to try and kill 90% of the human race.

[The Templar]

First off ELF isn't a terrorist group. Vandals? Sure, but given they are careful not to harm anyone, this only makes them vandals. I'm not terrified by them, so there you go.

And talk about conservative reactionary bias in the title of this thread! "Attacked"? Give me a break. I never hear about grafitti artists in my neighborhood "attacking" walls and buildings.

I guess Sloww is defining 'attack' down ...

As for SUVs getting burned, I won't be shedding any tears. Sorry, but I just don't care. If the police catch the guys who did it, make them pay restitution and do the time or probation or whatever.