Non-Alien Aliens

[The Mad Monk]

This actually got me thinking...if an extra-terrestrial were born in the United States, would it be a citizen?

Does it make a difference if it's "in the open" but hides the fact that it isn't human?

Does it make a difference if it just hides, period?

Can it even be called an extra-terrestrial or alien?

[MichaeltheGreat]

One would presume this was not a question which troubled the Framers...

No, they wouldn't be, any more than a horse or cat, because "person" is defined as a human being in US legal practice.

[The Mad Monk]

Now that's just sad.

Wold they have any standing under the law?

[Skanky Burns]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
No, they wouldn't be, any more than a horse or cat, because "person" is defined as a human being in US legal practice.

That didn't stop a tentacle from becoming president in the game Day of the Tentacle. Obviously one of you are wrong - who am I to believe. A mere mod on some strange website, or an actual computer game?

[Inverse Icarus]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
One would presume this was not a question which troubled the Framers...

No, they wouldn't be, any more than a horse or cat, because "person" is defined as a human being in US legal practice.

"person" is not strictly defined as human. and i'm sure if our benevolent alien overlords saw fit to live amoung us, we would rewrite the law (and most major religions) for them.

[BeBMan]

Re: Non-Alien Aliens

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
This actually got me thinking...if an extra-terrestrial were born in the United States, would it be a citizen?

Depends how big his laser blasters are

[Proteus_MST]

Re: Non-Alien Aliens

Originally posted by The Mad Monk

This actually got me thinking...if an extra-terrestrial were born in the United States, would it be a citizen?

Does it make a difference if it's "in the open" but hides the fact that it isn't human?

Does it make a difference if it just hides, period?

Can it even be called an extra-terrestrial or alien?

Being Non-Human in the UA would be the best way to get you into a Lab (as Laboratory Alien).
Some Scientist or Military Person would claim, that Human Rights only apply to humans and then abuse your Body for medical Experiments.

Just like it happened to the others in Roswell and other Places

They´d never be Citizens of the USA (at least not until the Scientists have performed all Experiments they want onto the Species, or open diplomatic Contact is established with the Earth and the Planet where these Aliens come from)

[st_swithin]

THE TROOTH IS OUT THERE!!!!

[Ari Rahikkala]

Wow. I thought I was the only one around here who read El Goonish Shive (well, it's more like that I never thought the possibility of other people here reading it)... 'tis a wonderful comic.

[The Mad Monk]

I found it this weekend.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
Wold they have any standing under the law?

I don't think there's many regulations for lab animals.

[el freako]

If we encountered aliens and some of them had chosen to live with us (or we changed the intelligence level of dolphins or chimps and gave them our extelligence as well) then i'm pretty sure that laws would be changed in order for them to become fully legal citizens.

[Proteus_MST]

Originally posted by el freako
If we encountered aliens and some of them had chosen to live with us (or we changed the intelligence level of dolphins or chimps and gave them our extelligence as well) then i'm pretty sure that laws would be changed in order for them to become fully legal citizens.

Only, if they aren´t needed as Lab Animals

[MrFun]

Originally posted by el freako
If we encountered aliens and some of them had chosen to live with us (or we changed the intelligence level of dolphins or chimps and gave them our extelligence as well) then i'm pretty sure that laws would be changed in order for them to become fully legal citizens.

extelligence?

[DAVOUT]

Originally posted by el freako
If we encountered aliens and some of them had chosen to live with us (or we changed the intelligence level of dolphins or chimps and gave them our extelligence as well) then i'm pretty sure that laws would be changed in order for them to become fully legal citizens.

In 1550, the controversy of Valladolid was held to decide whether Indians were human beings.