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**Asher** · August 31, 2003, 15:17

Online music piracy has existed since 1996 as far as I personally know.

**our_man** · August 31, 2003, 15:19

Question: does the RIAA have any jurisdiction outside of America? In other words, can those of us who live in Europe simply thumb our noses to this 'threat'?

**Ted Striker** · August 31, 2003, 15:19

The RIAA has been the most clueless ever on this.

Why can't they see the damn trend and start figuring out how to profit off of it? When the movie studios stopped fighting videocassettes, they found they made TRIPLE what they were making on movies alone.

I mean this is like the biggest no brainer EVER.

DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**Imran Siddiqui** · August 31, 2003, 15:20

Because I-Tunes is only a niche program. Until something like that comes to dominate, they'll have to crack down.

**Asher** · August 31, 2003, 15:21

iTunes, BuyMusic, etc. will never catch on to make anything significant as long as they have so many restrictions for what you can do with the music you now own.

**Ted Striker** · August 31, 2003, 15:22

I mean but it's just too easy for them to create a service like that though. It's really that easy.

**Imran Siddiqui** · August 31, 2003, 15:23

Yeah, but it is easier to have Apple or BuyMusic, or whoever, do the coding for you

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**Ted Striker** · August 31, 2003, 15:24

not sure i'm following

**Imran Siddiqui** · August 31, 2003, 15:49

Well, you say it is easy for them to create a system. Isn't it easier for someone else to create a system and then back it? That way, you won't have to do it yourself, and perhaps mess up things. Have Apple and Buymusic compete over the best transfer system, and back all of them.

**Lefty Scaevola** · August 31, 2003, 17:00

Originally posted by our_man
Question: does the RIAA have any jurisdiction outside of America? In other words, can those of us who live in Europe simply thumb our noses to this 'threat'?

They have the same acess to courts as does any other company doing business in Europe. In some ways Europes law are more severe on the subject, in other ways less.

**Shi Huangdi** · August 31, 2003, 18:08

Originally posted by our_man
Question: does the RIAA have any jurisdiction outside of America? In other words, can those of us who live in Europe simply thumb our noses to this 'threat'?

Theorectically, if your country has an extradition treay with the USA, RIAA could ask ask for you be tried. In practice I think RIAA is concentrating solely on the US market.

**mrmitchell** · August 31, 2003, 18:16

Kassiopeia once said that "the Finnish version of the RIAA" had succesfully lobbied a tax on CD-Rs. Which really didn't do any more than create black markets for smuggled Russian, German etc. ones I think.

**:) Smiley** · August 31, 2003, 18:43

**Dinner** · August 31, 2003, 18:45

Originally posted by Asher
Online music piracy has existed since 1996 as far as I personally know.

The drop in sales began in 1991 I believe.

**Dinner** · August 31, 2003, 18:48

Originally posted by our_man
Question: does the RIAA have any jurisdiction outside of America? In other words, can those of us who live in Europe simply thumb our noses to this 'threat'?

Pretty much. Though the RIAA says they're taking down the IP addresses of everyone they find trading music on line reguardless of national origin. They then inform the local authorities about illegal activities. It's then up to the local police to go after offenders and some nation's have not bothered. Other's have.

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