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Why did they kill 23 UN staffs who came here just to help Iraq ?
Under terrorism, the standard political calculations do not work.
Under terrorism, the standard political calculations do not work.
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Statistical anomaly.
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Another angle to the "you think you used enough dynamite there, Butch?" approach is that it casues some confusion as to who's responsible by deviating from the pattern of attacks used by Sadr's boys in the past.
There's an even bigger twist in that the spectacular size and effect of the blast will get much more attention and help (along with the UN bombing) spread the perception among a lot of Iraqis that the Americans can't secure the country.
I doubt it's morons who didn't know how much explosive to use - seems much more likely to me that this bombing was a message meant for several parties.When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."Comment
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Originally posted by DAVOUT
Why did they kill 23 UN staffs who came here just to help Iraq ?
Under terrorism, the standard political calculations do not work.
Because the folks who did that, Baathists most likely, did NOT want to help Iraq, they want to stop reconstruction so they can bring the occupation down and regain power. They attacked the UN rather than say a US base, cause the UN was less well protected, and they MAY be getting desperate.
Al qaeedas attacks too are explicable in terms of a politial strategy, even if a rather far fetched one. Stratfor has been outlining it since 9/11, and their analysis continues to make sense."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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75 dead so far. It appears that Saddam does not want to give up his status of the greatist killer of muslims.Gaius Mucius Scaevola Sinistra
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I agree. Simple explanations are misleading because the terrorist act is build to misled. It is therefore safer to contemplate all possibilities, even the most crazy or senseless.Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
seems much more likely to me that this bombing was a message meant for several parties.
The very important fact is that from now on Iraq has to be put under some sort of martial law, and that the ordinary military must be complemented by a counter-terrorism force, using terrorists ways and means.Statistical anomaly.
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Hello! Iraq already is under martial law!
And terrorist tactics are overrated in effectiveness. At least for the stuff that we need to do.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Explain that to the 90 casualties.Originally posted by DanS
Hello! Iraq already is under martial law!
And terrorist tactics are overrated in effectiveness. At least for the stuff that we need to do.
By the way, do you know how and when the martial law was declared to the population, and what obligations and restrictions it creates?Statistical anomaly.
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reuters continues to qupte witnesses who claim it was Hakims own car that blew up - CNN says this is uncertain - AP and BBC dont mention it at all.
If it WAS Hakims own car, that points to an inside job, by an organization that infiltrated SCIRI - most likely Iran, IMO."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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IIUC arrested criminals are tried by the newly formed IRaqi civilian courts, so theyre not actually under martial, just military occupation.Originally posted by DanS
Hello! Iraq already is under martial law!
And terrorist tactics are overrated in effectiveness. At least for the stuff that we need to do."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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Nope. And who cares?By the way, do you know how and when the martial law was declared to the population, and what obligations and restrictions it creates?
At least Baghdad is under 11 pm curfew and you have the military providing the bulk of law enforcement based upon procedures that are made up by the military.
Leave the semantics to Roland and the other lawyers.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Without martial law, and with the military performing ordinary police duties, there were three significant terrorist attempts in a short period; this is not semantics. There is no reason for this raw to stop if no serious measures are taken.Statistical anomaly.
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Are you implying Indian intelligence is involved?Originally posted by DAVOUT
There is no reason for this raw to stop if no serious measures are taken."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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What are you arguing Davout? What's your point? You can't deliver a punchline for sh!t.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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You said nobody cares whether or not there is a martial law. Terrorists appreciate.Originally posted by DanS
What are you arguing Davout? What's your point? You can't deliver a punchline for sh!t.
The UN blast was made possible by a total absence of security. Terrorists made good use of that.
The to-day blast was made without any difficulty, let alone risk, because the holy ground is not accessed at all by the US military. Terrorists ackowledge that respectable attitude.
My point is that the US are led to hardening severely the rules currently applied, because the current organization is not designed to eradicate this kind of terrorism. And the democracy will not florish until it is eradicated. The first step is the control of the population which is also named martial law. If for many reasons, legitimate or not, the US dont feel like doing that, they will have to declare it and act accordingly.Statistical anomaly.
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Well, Shias didn't want us to be near their holy sites and we complied.
It's always the same with people: only after painful experience do they realize their mistake.Comment
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