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  • #16
    Originally posted by Sava
    nobody has a right to live...
    am i the only one who sees something both very wrong, and very stupid in that statement?

    the point about living longer is to make our active lives longer. who wants to live to 200 if you still go into your dotage at 70 odd, not me for a start.
    "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

    "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Proteus_MST
      Who wants to live forever?


      I'll be terribly dissapointed if someone doesnt figure out a way to live until the age of, say, 500.
      "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by C0ckney
        am i the only one who sees something both very wrong, and very stupid in that statement?
        He is implying that a living organism (human or not) has a universal right to live. And that simply isn't true. Nature is anarchy... there are no rights. Rights are the creation of beings. Fetus's don't have the right to live because we have not given it to them.
        the point about living longer is to make our active lives longer. who wants to live to 200 if you still go into your dotage at 70 odd, not me for a start.
        IMO people already live to be too old...
        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • #19
          well you said 'no one has a right to life' and of course that is wrong. of course you or i have a right to life.

          as for your second point, i don't think people live too long, you can hardly say that people should be dying earlier! but i certainly think we should be more concerned with the number of years people can lead active, working lives, than just with the number of years people can live.
          "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

          "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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          • #20
            Originally posted by C0ckney
            well you said 'no one has a right to life' and of course that is wrong. of course you or i have a right to life.
            nah... any such rights are a condition of society... I should have elaborated to say such rights aren't universal. For instance... if you and I are alone on the planet... none of us has a "right" to live.
            as for your second point, i don't think people live too long, you can hardly say that people should be dying earlier!
            I'm evil... remember that
            but i certainly think we should be more concerned with the number of years people can lead active, working lives, than just with the number of years people can live.
            so we should only extend life if people can work? you filthy exploiting capitalist!!
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • #21
              An unborn baby has a right to life as well Cockney.
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              • #22
                i agree up to a point, but this isn't the thread for this sort of argument is it.
                "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                • #23
                  Does this mean we're going to be paying Social Security to these people for 180 years?
                  Well, that's a good question, but it only of many. It will create a lot of havok in social security, investment markets, insurance companies, housing, medical care, etc.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #24
                    Well it's certainly off topic.
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                    • #25
                      And banning abortion would certainly naturally elongate the lives of a great many people.
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                      • #26
                        Abortion is only the beginning. Overpopulation will lead to even stranger acts.
                        American by birth, smarter than the average tropical fruit by the grace of Me. -me
                        I try not to break the rules but merely to test their elasticity. -- Bill Veeck | Don't listed to the Linux Satanist, people. - St. Leo | If patching security holes was the top priority of any of us(no matter the OS), we'd do nothing else. - Me, in a tired and accidental attempt to draw fire from all three sides.
                        Posted with Mozilla Firebird running under Sawfish on a Slackware Linux install.:p
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                        • #27
                          It'd simply have to be made so these people would also be physically fit to keep working much longer.
                          "I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer

                          "I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand

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                          • #28
                            Abortion is only the beginning. Overpopulation will lead to even stranger acts.


                            campness will be prohibited?

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                            • #29
                              campness will be prohibited?

                              campness?
                              American by birth, smarter than the average tropical fruit by the grace of Me. -me
                              I try not to break the rules but merely to test their elasticity. -- Bill Veeck | Don't listed to the Linux Satanist, people. - St. Leo | If patching security holes was the top priority of any of us(no matter the OS), we'd do nothing else. - Me, in a tired and accidental attempt to draw fire from all three sides.
                              Posted with Mozilla Firebird running under Sawfish on a Slackware Linux install.:p
                              XGalaga.

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                              • #30
                                No camping?

                                Then what will the scouts do?
                                I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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