non-lethal crowd control

[Sava]

Pekka... that master of MS Paint!!!

[Whaleboy]

Weed bombs: 'nuff said

[Pekka]

The basic idea is that we can shoot these from launchers, these are not heavy or big (so if it hits you to the head, you're not likely to die from the damage).

You shoot this in the middle of the crowd, or where you want it. With accurate launchers you can be safe about it. Or if you want to re-live your youth, you can drop these babies from the roofs. It should stand in the right position as it lands. Then with RC-device, or a timer these babies will explode into the crowd, giving them rubber balls, or what ever we choose to use, HARD to the legs. We can direct this babys range, so the ammunition will not fly higher than we want, maybe 20 cm is good, just below the knee of average height man.

You can shoot these into the crowd as a deterrent to get the hell out or you'll just have to fire these babies. If you have to fire, you should do it at the same time to avoid people being on the ground when bullets fly, to avoid head injuries etc. THis is the basic idea.

[Pekka]

Sava, sure, but that is not SO bad, is it?

[Sava]

Originally posted by elijah
Weed bombs: 'nuff said

that would encourage crowds to congregate...

[Sava]

Originally posted by Pekka
Sava, sure, but that is not SO bad, is it?

I don't want to violate 'Poly's insult rules

[Whaleboy]

Weed bombs mean no-one gets hurt, everyone gets stoned and has a good time, protest can continue, no violence, and turns into a love fest!

Needless to say, I would certainly instigate a riot just to get stoned for free, but hey, we must take every opportunity to out dutch the dutch!

[Whaleboy]

Pekka: Its a little indiscriminate with the whole pain thing? And lets be honest, A, it would hurt like hell, and B, its easily countered by shin pads.

A homogenous dose of THC on the other hand...

[Pekka]

Pros: Cops are not in so much danger having to get in and use their batons, possibly injuring themselves, losing own equipment to the hostile crowd. Safe to the user.

Can be easily used, accurate system (short distances, not so hard to target).

Mostly shoots to the legs of rioters, not likely to brake any bones -> relatively safe.

Hurts, no one wants to stand next to one of these, so you can direct people where you want to. If they are stupid enough to not go away, they'll get a great lesson that their legs have to pay for.

Can be used as a deterrent. Shoot these babies in, we can work for some kind of locking system so people wont grab these beauties up. Maybe it'll zap you with electricity, I don't know have to work that one out. Now you haven't engaged or shot anyone, but they know it's on soon if they don't stop, and they don't stand a chance. In fact after this only few people will be able to stand.

Cons: If someone is on the ground, these can hit their heads. Should be avoided and used under strict observation of the situation.

[Pekka]

elijah, hmm.. good thing you said about chin pads. But I reckon only few people will have them anyway. Also you can make this thing stand higher, so it'll shoot your thighs and chins. To have protective against that? Sure be a robocop and move like a prisoner after meeting with Bubba.

Listen, shotguns with rubber bullets can be stopped with bullet vests.. how many still uses them? I don't think this is a problem.

[Whaleboy]

Pekka, many homes in the UK have pads, especially if someone plays football or rugby. I do, and once your weapons become public knowledge, people will take the obvious steps to counter them.

Listen, shotguns with rubber bullets can be stopped with bullet vests.. how many still uses them?

The difference between shin pads and bullet vests is that every sports store sells pads.

[Pekka]

This is for US markets anyway. I think something else for you, ok? I guess making gas form of Antabus drug will do the trick for you guys. It's drug against alcoholism, so if you drink alcohol, you won't experience the nice effects of alcohol, but you feel the bad effects, like nausea etc.
So I figure we shoot those into the crowds in UK .

[Whaleboy]

Sounds like a plan!!

What about enormous nets dropped from helicopters? I always liked the idea of ensnaring the forces of the iron left in the reinforced fibreglass nets of established capitalist freedom oh wait I'm not longer evil in order to allow legitimate, non violent protesters to enjoy and exercise their fundamental democratic right of sticking it to their populist suit clad oppressors.

[Pekka]

Another application of the KYS system. Like all PWS devices, they are very versatile.

[JCG]

Nothing wrong with water and/or tear gas, I think, as far as being non-lethal is concerned...